More power = Bigger Brakes needed? - Corsa Sport - for Vauxhall and Opel Corsa B, Corsa C and Corsa D

Not logged in [Login - Register]

You Are Not Registered Or Not Logged In

Corsa Sport » Message Board » General Chat » More power = Bigger Brakes needed?

New Topic

New Poll

<< 1 2 3 4 >>

Subscribe | Add to Favourites

You are not logged in and may not post or reply to messages. Please log in or create a new account or mail us about fixing an existing one - register@corsasport.co.uk

There are also many more features available when you are logged in such as private messages, buddy list, location services, post search and more.

Mattb

Member

Registered: 2nd Feb 03
Location: Under your sisters bed
User status: Offline

19th Jan 12 at 20:12

without a shadow of a doubt ash

Member

Registered: 5th Jul 00
Location: Aberdeen City
User status: Offline

19th Jan 12 at 20:23

quote:
Originally posted by chris_uk
If you can lock your wheels up using standard brakes then there is no point in upgrading the brakes.. you would be better buying better, grippier tyres.

even then i would probably upgrade the pads rather than the discs..

[Edited on 19-01-2012 by chris_uk]

Some bigger 'better' brakes are more progressive, well thats my experience anyway.

OE 286s on both Impreza and Skyline could be locked up on 888's.... i dont find it any easier to lock up the bigger ones.... they just do the bit inbetween more efficiently

chris_uk

Premium Member

Registered: 8th Jul 03
User status: Offline

19th Jan 12 at 20:25

some of the 300bhp turbo vx boys still use standard brakes but just change the pads.. thats a 100bhp increase.

i had 330mm discs on the vx but now only 308mm the braking i have is better now due to the better pads and calipers.

upgrading the power without brakes and suspension is fine if your on the road and just want to play traffic light drag races...

chris_uk

Premium Member

Registered: 8th Jul 03
User status: Offline

19th Jan 12 at 20:29

quote:
Originally posted by AK

quote:
Originally posted by chris_uk
If you can lock your wheels up using standard brakes then there is no point in upgrading the brakes.. you would be better buying better, grippier tyres.

even then i would probably upgrade the pads rather than the discs..

[Edited on 19-01-2012 by chris_uk]

Some bigger 'better' brakes are more progressive, well thats my experience anyway.

OE 286s on both Impreza and Skyline could be locked up on 888's.... i dont find it any easier to lock up the bigger ones.... they just do the bit inbetween more efficiently

sometimes they are yes, its one of the reasons why i changed my brakes to the ones i have now..

but going back to the fact were talking about a road car, upping the brakes for 20/30 bhp isnt needed.. imo.

3i_gaz

Member

Registered: 29th Nov 07
Location: Liverpool
User status: Offline

20th Jan 12 at 02:09

Think people need to look beyond disc size... and look into master cylinder size, pad quality, brake fluid quality, caliper quality etc...

Some VR6 turbo's are doing near 500 horse with not much fettling!

Road use i'd want a 312mm set up to keep smallish size wheels with some decent quality discs and DS2500's would be fine i think.

Some track work or a really silly drive possibly something bigger, most defenitly some castrol racing brake fluid or similar, carbone lorraine pads or similar, all depends on the application.

As said earlier bigger isnt always better.

xa0s

Banned

Registered: 4th Mar 08
Location: Dartford, Kent Car: Turbo'd Fabia vRS
User status: Offline

20th Jan 12 at 05:17

brakes r my best mod

love them on road + track

prefer it to having power tbh

xa0s

Banned

Registered: 4th Mar 08
Location: Dartford, Kent Car: Turbo'd Fabia vRS
User status: Offline

20th Jan 12 at 05:20

quote:
Originally posted by chris_uk
how many cars have you driven where you get brake fade?

lots, probably about 60%

all the fabia's i have driven have faded

my corsa b 1.2 faded like crazy too

Member

Registered: 5th Jul 00
Location: Aberdeen City
User status: Offline

20th Jan 12 at 07:39

most 'normal' road cars I have driven have all had fade.

Normal = anything with standard brakes

Corsas (B and C), Rangey, Supra, Skyline, 3 fiats, alfa......

Member

Registered: 5th Jul 00
Location: Aberdeen City
User status: Offline

20th Jan 12 at 07:40

its not been fade from 1 large stop though.... more like prolonged heat build up on twisty B roads with corner after corner that requires braking

Member

Registered: 5th Jul 00
Location: Aberdeen City
User status: Offline

20th Jan 12 at 07:52

also

Is more power really needed?

No, but its nice to have/use. Same goes for bigger brakes.

Ojc

Member

Registered: 14th Nov 00
Location: Reading: Drives : Clio 197
User status: Offline

20th Jan 12 at 07:53

All you need in your life are carbotech xp8s

Member

Registered: 5th Jul 00
Location: Aberdeen City
User status: Offline

20th Jan 12 at 08:03

or 10's or 12's lol

10's are great on track

Steve

Premium Member

Registered: 30th Mar 02
Location: Worcestershire Drives: Defender
User status: Offline

20th Jan 12 at 08:07

id honestly be willing to kiss any man in this thread

Ojc

Member

Registered: 14th Nov 00
Location: Reading: Drives : Clio 197
User status: Offline

20th Jan 12 at 09:06

Reply to text I want to have this out with you

Steve

Premium Member

Registered: 30th Mar 02
Location: Worcestershire Drives: Defender
User status: Offline

20th Jan 12 at 09:19

Test

adiohead

Member

Registered: 28th Sep 01
User status: Offline

20th Jan 12 at 09:23

I like my 323mm brakes and cheap £27 mintex pads. They're the perfect combo for normal road driving and the occasional spirited drive.

chris_uk

Premium Member

Registered: 8th Jul 03
User status: Offline

20th Jan 12 at 09:28

Locking wheels in a standard car = enough brake pressure and pad grip so tyres are the next thing to look at.

Brake fade in a standard car = heat dissapation not good enough, more likely to happen with solid discs.

If you get fade after a while driving B roads id put money on them being solid discs, id look at seeing if i could put vented discs on but same size.

The bigger the disc the larger surface area the pad can grip to with an added bonus of dispersing the heat build up. It will slow you down fast as the tyres will allow without locking up.

Tyres are the key to good braking imo.

Dave

Member

Registered: 26th Feb 01
Location: Lancs
User status: Offline

20th Jan 12 at 11:06

How many cars are fitted with solid discs on the front now though?

Steve

Premium Member

Registered: 30th Mar 02
Location: Worcestershire Drives: Defender
User status: Offline

20th Jan 12 at 11:08

not seen solid fronts since my 95 Corsa 1.2i 8v C12NZ

MatthewR

Member

Registered: 21st Oct 02
Location: Rickmansworth
User status: Offline

20th Jan 12 at 11:15

4 pages!!

Jim u crack me up lol

Ian

Site Administrator

Registered: 28th Aug 99
Location: Liverpool
User status: Offline

20th Jan 12 at 13:29

quote:
Originally posted by chris_uk
If you get fade after a while driving B roads id put money on them being solid discs, id look at seeing if i could put vented discs on but same size.

Astra has 300mm vented and they fade after a few bends if you're on one.

Ian

Site Administrator

Registered: 28th Aug 99
Location: Liverpool
User status: Offline

20th Jan 12 at 13:30

quote:
Originally posted by MatthewR
4 pages!!

Jim u crack me up lol

Well done, get your cocks out, we've had a good conversation but because its Jim, he can have a prize for making us do it.

chris_uk

Premium Member

Registered: 8th Jul 03
User status: Offline

20th Jan 12 at 14:02

quote:
Originally posted by Ian

quote:
Originally posted by chris_uk
If you get fade after a while driving B roads id put money on them being solid discs, id look at seeing if i could put vented discs on but same size.
Astra has 300mm vented and they fade after a few bends if you're on one.

how big are they? they must be small or use utterly shit pads.

<< 1 2 3 4 >>

New Topic

New Poll

Corsa Sport » Message Board » General Chat » More power = Bigger Brakes needed?

23 database queries in 0.0173619 seconds