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matty farrell
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21st Feb 12 at 00:39   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote
am about to do a full rebuild on me x14xe but finding it hard to find some new pistons and vales and vave springs have looked all over the web and carnt seem to find any think. so if any one no's any places were sells them let me no lol also any ideas on how to get as much bhp as posible with out going over £700
daveybee
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21st Feb 12 at 00:44   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote
Try engine services, i imagine they would be able to help, what spec pistons nd valves you wanting?
matty farrell
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21st Feb 12 at 00:48   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote
just somthing to gain a bit performance but with out brakeing the bank
daveybee
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Well ur goin 2hav 2think about what kinda power you want, 140-150. Is acheivable without changin pistons but strengthin the engine rod bolts etc.
Dan H
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ebay have rods and pistons for £700 but that would be all your budget gone, be a tough call to find pistons and rods cheaper than £500 tbf, a good rebuild with a few subtle mods will see 130-150 as daveybee says
Linch
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I would keep standard pistons and rods
ARP Rod bolt kit
Get the crank balanced.
New gaskets all round.
Valve Items replaced
Re hone and rings
Decent set of cams is probably in that budget too.
4-2-1 manifold and Inlet.
All that done right would equate to around what davey mentioned power wise.
Flywheel lightened too.
Change the final drive in the gear box aswell to benefit from it being a revvy engine.
corsajay88
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22nd Feb 12 at 20:00   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote
Sorry to hijack but im also looking to rebuild mine. What power would come from a similar spec but on a 1.6?
Jed D
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22nd Feb 12 at 21:14   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote
talk more about the lightened flywheels someone please...

1.6 8v or 1.4 16v ones good for the 16xe?

also how much are the arp bolts??

[Edited on 22-02-2012 by Jed D]
daveybee
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22nd Feb 12 at 21:55   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote
Arp rod bolts about 50pund.
matty farrell
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22nd Feb 12 at 21:59   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote
thanks lad think am guna start ordering the bits and get this cracked on with
Jed D
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22nd Feb 12 at 22:02   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote
get t turbo'd


nebody know much about the flywheels? whats a cheap option for a lightened one or pleace that do it cheap and balance them up?
daveybee
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I got 179bhp out of a 1.6 but that was built for a lad with money,
Was rebored to 1.75cc with pocketed pistons
Dbilas inlet
Dbilas wild cams
Ported, polished, gas flowed head with larger ports.
AAS 4branch nd exhaust system,
Megasquirt management,
And other bits, stood the kid about 7k.
Jed D
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22nd Feb 12 at 22:04   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote
quote:
Originally posted by daveybee
I got 179bhp out of a 1.6 but that was built for a lad with money,
Was rebored to 1.75cc with pocketed pistons
Dbilas inlet
Dbilas wild cams
Ported, polished, gas flowed head with larger ports.
AAS 4branch nd exhaust system,
Megasquirt management,
And other bits, stood the kid about 7k.


can get a lot faster for a lot cheaper but big up to that lad

[Edited on 22-02-2012 by Jed D]
matty farrell
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22nd Feb 12 at 22:44   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote
some one sed to me the other day i could use 1.8 injectors or is that just patta lol
daveybee
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22nd Feb 12 at 23:00   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Jed D
quote:
Originally posted by daveybee
I got 179bhp out of a 1.6 but that was built for a lad with money,
Was rebored to 1.75cc with pocketed pistons
Dbilas inlet
Dbilas wild cams
Ported, polished, gas flowed head with larger ports.
AAS 4branch nd exhaust system,
Megasquirt management,
And other bits, stood the kid about 7k.


can get a lot faster for a lot cheaper but big up to that lad

[Edited on 22-02-2012 by Jed D]


i know that, he knew that. but he liked the idea of beatin things then sayin, 'its only a 16'
daveybee
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22nd Feb 12 at 23:01   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote
quote:
Originally posted by matty farrell
some one sed to me the other day i could use 1.8 injectors or is that just patta lol


i think the 1.8 injectors are same size.
Jed D
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22nd Feb 12 at 23:46   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote
quote:
Originally posted by daveybee
quote:
Originally posted by matty farrell
some one sed to me the other day i could use 1.8 injectors or is that just patta lol


i think the 1.8 injectors are same size.


so are x16xe or x16xeL injectors the same as c16xe ones do you know?
matty farrell
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22nd Feb 12 at 23:59   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote
a got told thay were little bit bigger but a duno if ya find any thing out jed let is no mate
daveybee
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They mite hav the same flow rating but different ohms nd resistance. Basically like the early and later redtops
Jed D
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23rd Feb 12 at 08:44   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote
rite, back to my other question, a mates using a 1.6 8v flywheel in his 16xe but iv also heard the 14xe fly is good to use aswell? can anyone confirm this or extend on it
daveybee
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23rd Feb 12 at 11:54   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote
U wud hav 2change clutches if used a 8v flywheel, personally i wud jus get ur current 1 machined, place called keepier tools aka bob cooks engineerin. Really good nd wel priced.
Jed D
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23rd Feb 12 at 12:16   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote
quote:
Originally posted by daveybee
U wud hav 2change clutches if used a 8v flywheel, personally i wud jus get ur current 1 machined, place called keepier tools aka bob cooks engineerin. Really good nd wel priced.


cheaper priced than a new clutch for an 8v you think? i could lighten it myself but its the balancing i wasn't sure about were to go

 
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