Cavey
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Word for word, exactly what I put on facebook when I heard Cameron's speech, which in fairness, he did very well
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chrisritch
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Originally posted by Ben J
Will be interesting to see the Sun front page headline tomorrow?
THE TRUTH:
We are a bunch of lying fucking cunts who will write anything, regardless of it being fact or fiction, in order to sell copies.
That would suffice.
Oh and page 2 should have a picture of Kelvin McKenzie hanging from a tree by his bollocks whilst being set alight.
[Edited on 12-09-2012 by chrisritch]
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JonnyJ
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Originally posted by Ben J
Return of standing "sections" now????
I doubt we will ever see a return to terraces how there were, even though i personally think there is no reason why they cant, it's just too ingrained in people minds that they are somehow dangerous and the police will always use the old "harder to identify people" line.
But like i said in my earlier post, football fans have changed. Its nothing at all like it used to be, at whatever level of football you watch. Aye, you still get the odd bit of trouble here and there, especially at high tension derby games but you cant even begin to compare it to how it was back in the 70/80s. And, you get trouble at any sport, rugby for instance is by no means innocent, yet they can still stand and drink at games. There should be no reason why that shouldn't be allowed to happen in football grounds.
I think it will give a boost to the safe standing campaign, using the rail seats idea. It would be a step in the right direction to getting standing back in football at least.
As i said though, I'm hoping we see a real change in attitudes now. Football fans were NOT to blame for Hillsborough, poor policing and organisation was, and I'm sorry, it doesnt matter what sport it is, or what reputation its fans have, if a big event is policed badly, if its organised badly, if its held at a venue not fit for purpose, its going to end in disaster.
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chrisritch
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Wasn't there a crush at Hillsborough not long before also?
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Cavey
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The year before that there was, yep. Liverpool asked to be given the kop end at hillsbrough as it was bigger, and more modern in terms of access, but were refused, even though they had a bigger fan base than forest.
Some of the stuff I've heard about it on Keys and Gray was shocking to say the least. They did a whole week highlighting the subject at the start of the year
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Marc
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Quite sickening to say statements etc were altered to suit the police/media.
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Hammer
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Originally posted by Marc
Quite sickening to say statements etc were altered to suit the police/media.
The most despicable of acts.
Sneaky, despicable cunts.
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Marc
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Tom
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Great gesture that yesterday, fair play to Everton 
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Robbo
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Gerrard and Vidic to release 96 (red?) balloons before kick-off :/
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Steve
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this is all getting highly gay
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mwg
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Won't be watching the pre-match build up then
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