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Marc

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29th Nov 12 at 09:12

I have Office H&S on the PC, is there anyway to download a trial for the Mac and use my product key to install the full version?

Balling

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29th Nov 12 at 09:25

Office for Mac is a completely different software suite, so product key will not work.

Libre Office reads MS Office documents though.

Balling

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29th Nov 12 at 09:27

Libre Office is free, I might add...

Dom

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29th Nov 12 at 11:11

Office for Mac can be 'had' if you know where to look; runs fine here.

Nismo

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29th Nov 12 at 12:05

I need license for Outlook Dom

evilrob

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29th Nov 12 at 12:13

Better off running Windows under virtualisation and using the Office you're used to.

Parallels can be had for £37 with some other shit you probably don't care about via this bundle deal here:
https://stacksocial.com/sales/the-mac-utility-bundle-feat-parallels-desktop-8

evilrob

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29th Nov 12 at 12:14

Or VMWare Fusion is on offer for £31.99 at the moment, just as good:

http://store.vmware.com/store/vmwde/en_GB/buy/productID.166450700

Balling

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29th Nov 12 at 12:25

quote:
Originally posted by evilrob
Better off running Windows under virtualisation and using the Office you're used to.

What a fucking hassle to avoid learning a slightly different software.

Nismo

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29th Nov 12 at 12:35

Yeah that defats the object completely, tbf there is very little difference.

evilrob

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29th Nov 12 at 12:36

There's a bit more to it than that - if you work with Office documents that have macros for example, it's a whole world of pain.

If it's just for banging out the odd letter at home or whatever, then I guess the Mac Office or open source equivalent would do.

If you frequently need to share Office documents with Windows users, particularly if macros are involved, you're better off just using the Windows version of Office.

Dom

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29th Nov 12 at 12:58

quote:
Originally posted by evilrob
if you work with Office documents that have macros for example, it's a whole world of pain

2011 supports VBA, it isn't 100% compatible but so far i haven't found it to be that much of an arseache.

Edit - And you test for the OS and execute specific code if you need to run the macro on Windows and OSX; pain but certainly easy that getting a client to install and run a VM of Windows.

[Edited on 29-11-2012 by Dom]

Dom

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29th Nov 12 at 13:08

quote:
Originally posted by Nismo
I need license for Outlook Dom

Haven't got one i'm afraid, it's a self contained install.

evilrob

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29th Nov 12 at 13:11

I have to deal with complex financial models on a daily basis; from auditors and benchmark analysts and it's just the path of least resistance for me to flip over into Windows to work on their templates and send it back rather than risk the "it'll probably be OK" of running it through Mac Office and sending it back and finding there's some problem.

I also need to use Access and Visio on occasion for which there is no* Mac equivalent. I just find it handy to be able to drop into Windows on occasion and work on exactly the same environment as the person sending me the files to ensure there's no risk of any compatibility issues.

I thought that the current offers on VMWare Fusion and Parallels 8 were quite good so I shared the information.

(*Yes, I know Access is shit and I'm as surprised as you that people still use it and I'm also aware that OmniGraffle is *better* than Visio, but it's compatibility with Windows users rearing its ugly head again)

Marc

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29th Nov 12 at 13:13

quote:
Originally posted by Balling
Libre Office is free, I might add...

I'll check that out!

John

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29th Nov 12 at 13:15

Loads of stuff isn't compatible between versions, simple stuff in powerpoint is one I come across regularly.

evilrob

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29th Nov 12 at 13:19

quote:
Originally posted by Dom
And you test for the OS and execute specific code if you need to run the macro on Windows and OSX; pain but certainly easy that getting a client to install and run a VM of Windows.

I'm the one receiving the files, doing some stuff to it, and sending it back - so I'm not going to go arsing about with someone else's macros just to get it to work on my Mac version of Office. I just drop into Windows and run it in the environment in which it was developed and designed for.

Similarly, I'm not going to waste time writing macros that support two environments when it's only going to be useful to me and 1 other person out of every 99 macro-enabled spreadsheets I might want to send.

John

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29th Nov 12 at 13:20

Giving non IT based mac users Parallels just causes a world of pain.

evilrob

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29th Nov 12 at 13:23

I wasn't sure how IT-savvy the OP was. My main objective was to share some really good pricing on VMWare Fusion 5 and Parallels 8 at the moment. I didn't realise it would result in a ruckus!

Dom

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29th Nov 12 at 13:29

quote:
Originally posted by evilrob

quote:
Originally posted by Dom
And you test for the OS and execute specific code if you need to run the macro on Windows and OSX; pain but certainly easy that getting a client to install and run a VM of Windows.

I'm the one receiving the files, doing some stuff to it, and sending it back - so I'm not going to go arsing about with someone else's macros just to get it to work on my Mac version of Office. I just drop into Windows and run it in the environment in which it was developed and designed for.

Similarly, I'm not going to waste time writing macros that support two environments when it's only going to be useful to me and 1 other person out of every 99 macro-enabled spreadsheets I might want to send.

If it's just for you can do what you want but if you have to support Mac users then as John said, getting clients to virtualise Windows is just a PITA.

Parallels, VMWare? Virtualbox is free

evilrob

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29th Nov 12 at 13:48

Where did getting clients to virtualise Windows come into the argument!? I'm calling straw man on that.

The OP is running Office Home and Student on another PC. I simply offered a way of conveniently continuing to enjoy an Office suite he's familiar with (and has a license for), on his shiny Mac computer, whilst ensuring no compatibility issues should he want to send or receive documents to/from Windows users (which will represent the vast majority of any situation when sharing Word documents, Excel spreadsheets or Powerpoint presentations).

Virtualbox is free - but if we're concerned about any given user's ability to get on with virtualisation software, Virtualbox is the least intuitive of the three.

LeeM

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29th Nov 12 at 13:50

with office 2012 everything is cross compatible and ive not noticed myself having to learn how to do anything new

evilrob

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29th Nov 12 at 13:59

Might I suggest a compromise in order of cost and hassle:

1. Try LibreOffice - it's free and may fulfil the OPs needs.
-> If OP gets on with LibreOffice, experiences no compatibility issues, then happy days - job done. If not:

2. Try Office for Mac - has a free trial and may fulfil the OPs needs.
-> If OP gets on with Office for Mac, experiences no compatibility issues, then buy or steal a license as appropriate. Otherwise:

3. Try VirtualBox / Bootcamp to run Windows and existing Office suite natively /virtually - also free (assuming OP has Windows license) and may fulfil the OPs needs.
-> If OP gets on with Virtualbox, OP might consider investing in a fancier virtualisation package.

Everyone happy with this course of action?

[Edited on 29-11-2012 by evilrob]

Dom

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29th Nov 12 at 14:06