Generation
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Here's my spec at the moment
lock rebored to (87mm .Omega pistons, skimmed cylinder block ,ZLET oil pump, Modified oil pick up pipe, Oil jetted for under piston cooling, H section steel con rods with ARP bolts, head studs, ARP main cap studs, Balanced crank, arp flywheel bolts, Male lead/copper bearings , Cometic head gasket, coscast skimmed rebuilt cylinder head with re-cut, re-lapped valves, with new stem seals
New timing belt, idler, tensioner and water pump , 8v sump gasket, TTV flywheel, ARP flywheel bolts. 6 speed paddle clutch
At moment I only have standard loom, injectors and ecu.
Obviously to hit the 400hp I'm aiming for, it'll need management and mapping.
Any recommendations for management/prices? I'm unsure what to expect.
Also can at run for a little while without being set up, or am I likely to break something?
[Edited on 10-04-2013 by Generation]
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AK
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where are the bits that make the power :?
86.5 or 87mm 
If you run at the same boost on the same turbo its currently using there will be little issue running as is untill mapping... as none of what you have listed will change anthing
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Generation
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Sorry, 87mm.
Turbo is nothing special, Nortech manifold, and 3" exhaust system.
Fuel system has been bought and mid way through installation, but that's capable for up to 500hp
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VrsTurbo
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unless you set the fuel pressure right with your new fuel system you'll have issues
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AK
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if you are changing injector sizes you will need it mapped to suit.
My point was the spec list you have posted doesnt mean anything.... Its the fueling/turbo etc that will decide if you need it remapped.
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Generation
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quote:
Originally posted by VrsTurbo
unless you set the fuel pressure right with your new fuel system you'll have issues
This is what I've mainly been worries about. I posted the spec, for hopefully some advice on different systems people gave used with similar spec.
Injectors are standard at moment, they will be upgraded just before goes to be set up
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VrsTurbo
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quote:
Originally posted by Generation
quote:
Originally posted by VrsTurbo
unless you set the fuel pressure right with your new fuel system you'll have issues
This is what I've mainly been worries about. I posted the spec, for hopefully some advice on different systems people gave used with similar spec.
Injectors are standard at moment, they will be upgraded just before goes to be set up
Just set the reg to standard fuel pressure and it will be fine on the drive up to the mappers
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AK
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or run rich as buggery and 'wash' the bores?
Think about the injectors for a sec...
Your old 'map' fired the orig Xcc injectors for x amount of time every X time period.
If you run different injectors (larger) you are going fire in much more fuel than needed.
I'm not saying its going to blow up, BUT it would be advisable to swap injectors at the latest possible point... i.e just before mapping (if you cant somehow scale them yourself).
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gazza808
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I wouldn't personally bother with the stadard setup, unless you have some one local/know some one who will play with it for you,
Adjusting the fpr you can stop it running lean etc, but obviously chip sets and fpr/bigger injectors isn't ideal but some people have made good power on it.
Some people do it to no ill affects, some have hassle.
Quite a few people make looms for these engines to suit omex600 or dta, I'll post some links later, they're easy to fit.
Then obviously you just need to get it too mapping.
[Edited on 10-04-2013 by gazza808]
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Generation
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Yeah, the mapping place will more than likely be ones fitting injectors at same time as fitting new injectors.
I've been quoted £240 for loom
[Edited on 10-04-2013 by Generation]
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gazza808
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That's a good price tbh.
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Mattb
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In theory the engine control unit should back the injectors off if they are larger than standard after evaluating the lambda signal maybe up to 25%
However, it really does depend on the size of the injectors and at what pressure they are running. My old Calibra turbo was on 440cc injectors with a standard ecu and then an EDS chipped one. It was fine, but the trip computer threw up some mega MPG figures! 
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f.p.e
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Speak to the 2 steves @ track + road, see what they like to use as their ment to be very good mapping + down your neck of the woods.
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