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Author advise needed . tennants
jrsteeve
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20th Aug 13 at 13:29   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

Firstly it's 'tenants' and 'tenancy'

Secondly, you could offer a defence that they paid a holding fee, not a deposit, this is non-refundable. Alternatively you could say it was their first month's rent in advance. Either way it'd be non-refundable if they pulled out. If they have nothing in writing confirming what they paid was a deposit the judge may side either way.
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They have a receipt saying deposit for rental of ...


If I gave him it back whats to stop him saying I hadn't and what's to stop me saying I have .
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tbh, an empty house is better than a troublesome lodger.

sounds like you may have dodged a bullet there
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quote:
Originally posted by Bart
tbh, an empty house is better than a troublesome lodger.

sounds like you may have dodged a bullet there



I agree. Not taking dhss now . If they can't drag their arse out of bed they ain't living there . I might ring him and offer half up .
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If it has been less than 30 days put it in a TDS scheme and then let the ADR service argue over whether you get...

On the other hand say that it was a holding deposit which you were to protect upon the start of the agreement.

[Edited on 20-08-2013 by ChazSXi]
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It's been a month and a half . I will ring the little cunt tomorrow . If I offer him half and he agrees what do I need to get to stop it in its tracks
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quote:
Originally posted by baza31
It's been a month and a half . I will ring the little cunt tomorrow . If I offer him half and he agrees what do I need to get to stop it in its tracks


Consent order would be formal probably too formal. Just get him to sign something if you agree half to say its in settlement and there is no further cause of action
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Sounds like you have been lucky to me. Rent it to the next person


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like fuck id be giving it back based on a hand written receipt.
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I'd be taking them to small claims yourself sighting their time wasting at the normal rate of £55 an hour to cover your administration costs & labour costs plus materials for the fence they asked for, plus the months lost rent.
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And electricity for logging in on here
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Am prepared to go to court but I can't be arsed getting fined. I have a text off him saying when will fence be finished and I replied it will be finished for when you move in . It's more than likely a court will side with these louts over me .
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just say you posted it back
LeeM
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anyway, i just googled the tenancy protection, first line says this
"In England and Wales, if you rent your home on an assured shorthold tenancy that started after 6 April 2007, your landlord must place your deposit in one of the following tenancy deposit protection (TDP) schemes"

which they havent. theres no shorthold tenancy in place, therefore no need to use a tdp scheme
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https://www.gov.uk/tenancy-deposit-protection/overview

quote:
Holding deposits
Your landlord doesn’t have to protect a holding deposit (money you pay to ‘hold’ a property before an agreement is signed). However, once you become a tenant, the holding deposit becomes a deposit, which they must protect.
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Why is he interested in the fence if he's not taking it?
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quote:
Originally posted by Ian
Why is he interested in the fence if he's not taking it?


Ian, I think he mean't that text was from a while back. So when he first asked for the fence to be put in.
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Sorry yeh it was from before . Lee that's great that covers me I think .Thanks a lot for that . If you have any more ammo I can write on this letter or ways to word it is appreciate it .
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quote:
Originally posted by baza31
Sorry yeh it was from before . Lee that's great that covers me I think .Thanks a lot for that . If you have any more ammo I can write on this letter or ways to word it is appreciate it .


As I said above re holding deposit. Thing is the argument will be whether the deposit was subsequently refundable or not....
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Well if I read corre try its a holding deposit until the tenancy is signed then its a rental deposit which needs depositing in 30 days . He didn't sign a tenancy because he didn't answer his phone . I feel better for reading the above from the gov website .

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