jonnysri
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alot of speculation about him being dropped for club and country.
just wondered what eveyones opinion was?
i personally think hes the best choice we have for england. ruddy, foster forster are a long way behind. butland would be a great shout with more PL game time IMO
as far as city are concerned. i think pantilimon is a decent reserve keeper but hart should be given the vote of confidence to stay between the sticks
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Marc
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I'm thinking this is a bit like the Mourinho/Mata situation, although in this case there is substance.
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Steve
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I think Pellefanny has an agenda, rumoured he wanted to bring Malaga keeper with him but kinda couldn't with Joe Hart being so prominent being Englands number 1 too etc.
So now hes manipulating the situation to suit that agenda. Some think he wont get back in now and he will bring that keeper in in Jan.
Also questioning his managing of Hart, and changing tactics and defenders around has totally destroyed his confidence.
I personally think its disgraceful that he has basically laid all of the problems on Hart, he has his fair share of blame but there are plenty of other reasons why some of these mistakes have happened too.
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JonnyJ
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Player out of form dropped? Happens every weekend. Nothing to see here.
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Hammer
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All this has done is prove that Hart is England's poster boy and the national team will suffer as a result because he will continue to get picked because of it.
Only difference between City and England is Pellegrini doesn't give a shit about dropping him, to his credit, whereas there is no real chance Hodgson is going to.
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Cavey
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Originally posted by JonnyJ
Player out of form dropped? Happens every weekend. Nothing to see here.
He'll be in the squad for the next two games, but Ruddy and Forster SHOULD play one each. He is better than both though, so will be no.1 for the world cup. Couldn't care less about City tbf, I think it'll do him good being dropped though, he needs some competition there
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Cavey
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Hart is a big lad, he's confident as hell, I doubt this will knock him too much, just as Mancini critising him probably didn't affect him much, as "bad" a man manager as he apparently was, he probably only said it as he knows Hart can handle it.
Also, the British media are utter cunts, so now we've qualified for a tournament they'll do their best to stir things up until a month before it starts where they'll suddenly think we can win it. He has made stupid mistakes recently,and as England's poster boy no.1 he'll be scrutinised for it more than others
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Steve
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Originally posted by Hammer
All this has done is prove that Hart is England's poster boy and the national team will suffer as a result because he will continue to get picked because of it.
Only difference between City and England is Pellegrini doesn't give a shit about dropping him, to his credit, whereas there is no real chance Hodgson is going to.
Pellegrini deserves no credit at all for how hes handled this, a lot of these problems are from his poor management. But then you also think highly of AVB, the same AVB who today came out and accused all those of speaking up about his shocking "decision" to keep Lloris on the pitch after his knock as doing it to get their names in the media.
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Ojc
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STFU
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John G
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Forster a long way behind? what are you basing this on, because he plays in the SPL?
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Rick Draper
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Originally posted by Steve
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Originally posted by Hammer
All this has done is prove that Hart is England's poster boy and the national team will suffer as a result because he will continue to get picked because of it.
Only difference between City and England is Pellegrini doesn't give a shit about dropping him, to his credit, whereas there is no real chance Hodgson is going to.
Pellegrini deserves no credit at all for how hes handled this, a lot of these problems are from his poor management. But then you also think highly of AVB, the same AVB who today came out and accused all those of speaking up about his shocking "decision" to keep Lloris on the pitch after his knock as doing it to get their names in the media.
Harts problems are his own making. He believes the hype, he believes he is great and the best ever when actually he had one good season and has been shit ever since. The fame and cash have gone to his head and his decision making and shot stopping have been terrible for a while. Also his distribution is shit and always has been.
Pellegrini has done the right thing and dropped him, he thought he was the man and a surefire first team pick, that's proved that wrong.
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Marc
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Needs to stop with the H&S adverts on concentrate on being a footballer.
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Hammer
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Originally posted by Steve
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Originally posted by Hammer
All this has done is prove that Hart is England's poster boy and the national team will suffer as a result because he will continue to get picked because of it.
Only difference between City and England is Pellegrini doesn't give a shit about dropping him, to his credit, whereas there is no real chance Hodgson is going to.
Pellegrini deserves no credit at all for how hes handled this, a lot of these problems are from his poor management. But then you also think highly of AVB, the same AVB who today came out and accused all those of speaking up about his shocking "decision" to keep Lloris on the pitch after his knock as doing it to get their names in the media.
What problems are from his poor man management? There are no problems?
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IvIarkgraham
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Forster is probably the next best keeper but I used to rate Hart quite highly. He wont be dropped for long
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ShEp
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Forster is a great keeper. miles better than Hart
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