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Phil321
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quote:
Originally posted by Sooty
got a website for evo?


www.evo.co.uk Got all the road tests on there too. Very useful!
Sooty
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excellent, cheers !
Andy
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quote:
Originally posted by Phil321
Also, whilst this is probably not the time to mention it, my 206 will be for sale in two weeks due to imminent arrival of new Mini Anyone interested, drop me a u2u


I think you need to brush up on your sales technique Phil
Phil321
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quote:
Originally posted by Claire G
"The 206 is stylish and deservedly popular. Refinement, interior space and a quality cabin are the best points along with superior handling and ride."
Pasted from the parkers site.


Yes, but Parkers mean it handles well in terms of a granny pottering down to Tesco. EVO on the other hand mean it handles shite when being properly driven.
Phil321
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quote:
Originally posted by Phil321
Also, whilst this is probably not the time to mention it, my 206 will be for sale in two weeks due to imminent arrival of new Mini Anyone interested, drop me a u2u


I think you need to brush up on your sales technique Phil


Yes, I am too honest for my own good. I will never sell at this rate!
Claire
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quote:
Originally posted by Phil321
quote:
Originally posted by Claire G
"The 206 is stylish and deservedly popular. Refinement, interior space and a quality cabin are the best points along with superior handling and ride."
Pasted from the parkers site.


Yes, but Parkers mean it handles well in terms of a granny pottering down to Tesco. EVO on the other hand mean it handles shite when being properly driven.

no - evo test it as a sports car, which its not. If you are happy reading one review and basinc you judgement on it then thats up to you, you say you own a 206 - so do i. From my experience and the things ive read about them they handle very well. As i said - im not going to argue anymore because there's no point.
Phil321
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Fair enough, we will have to agree to disagree
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quote:
Originally posted by Phil321
quote:
Originally posted by Sooty
I do rate evo's reviews... 0-60 of a 106gti = 7.4


They are very reliable as they don't use manufacturers figures. They time them themselves under normal conditions on the day of the test.


only the figures in italic are Evo Road tests, the rest are manufacturer book times
Ojc
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Clio Williams
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well we have just this sec come back from the vauxhall garage, she fell in love with a red 1.4SRI (16" alloys, alloy interior,aircon cdplayer) should be enough gadets for her. knocked em down to £7250 thats a 52 plate and mint inside and out.
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not bad but u can get a hell of a lot more car for that money...new cars are a rip off mate....
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well a new SRi 1.4 is £10500 this one we got was 8 months old and £3250 cheaper!!!

The insurance is spot on for her and she wasnt looking for a fast car, just somthing that was well specced/looked good and had some gadets inside.

TBH i think thats a good price as i paid same amount for my corsa 10 moinths ago and got a hell of alot less (no aircon/smaller alloys/ smaller engine)

agreed theres alot better cars but not really in the same insurance bracat or that would of met her requirements.
Mark Petty
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I love the Nissan Pulsar GTiR 2. 0 Turbo. Thats what I want next but insurance is group 20
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Seems like a good deal to me, I paid £7200 for me 1.2 16v SXI new, you're getting a nearly new SRI for pretty much the same price!
sxi boy
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quote:
Originally posted by Gambit
quote:
Originally posted by Phil321
quote:
Originally posted by Sooty
I do rate evo's reviews... 0-60 of a 106gti = 7.4


They are very reliable as they don't use manufacturers figures. They time them themselves under normal conditions on the day of the test.


only the figures in italic are Evo Road tests, the rest are manufacturer book times


its actuall the figures in bold that evo have tested themselves and the 106 gti 7.4 0-60 was tested by them
sxi boy
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claire G - arent you 16?
Ojc
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I have yet to see a standard or near standard GTi/VTS do a 0-60 of under 8 seconds.

When I was at Donny on Sunday, three VTS's were running at times of around 8.10-8.80 pretty much the same as Punto GT's.

I did see a MODDED VTS do 0-60 in 7.77 though with 17's.
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And at the Saxo Vs Corsa day a near standard VTS done a run of 8.8 which was only 3 tenths of a second faster than my GSi.

I do not believe the GTi/VTS will do it any quicker than 8.0 seconds as standard.
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quote:
Originally posted by Ojc
And at the Saxo Vs Corsa day a near standard VTS done a run of 8.8 which was only 3 tenths of a second faster than my GSi.

I do not believe the GTi/VTS will do it any quicker than 8.0 seconds as standard.


evo independantly tesred em at 7.4 and 7.6

all comes down to driver on the day tho
Ojc
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I do not believe EVO at all, they talk shit.

And if they DID get those times you have to remember they are being driven by EXPERT drivers who know how to launch properly.

TBH none of us can launch properly, so a 0-60 of over 8.0 seconds for a VTS/GTi is actually more realistic for Mr Average.

I mean, I got beaten off the lights by a S2 106 Rallye PMSL

Did I look a cunt or what

[Edited on 21-08-2003 by Ojc]
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Seat - Ibiza [basic model goin for £189 deposit plus £189/month] [made by VW in spain]

VW - Polo [Goin for a few quid more than the above]

Renault - Clio Billabong [£199 deposit, £189/month, this car comes with some nice extra's ]

Ford Fiesta - From £189/month again...

Nissan Micra, from £159/month...

Renault Megane II - From £199/month.

Take ur pick

If i was you id go for the VW/Seat purely for quality.

Personally I went for the megane... only mine is costing £230/month plus a hefty deposit cos im picky


Anyway good luck!
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quote:
Originally posted by lacky75
I'v been round all the local (new) car dealers in search of a new small hatch for my sister (thinking of spending no more then 10k.

I currently drive a Corsa (c) 1.2 16v and i find this a good all-round hatch. Iv now tried most of the new fiestas/yaris's...etc and to say they have underwhelmed me is an understatment!!

My little 1.2 pisses on most other small hatches we tried and the build quality is as good as the best of em, in terms of performance my 1.2 easily FELT (im not saying it was) quicker then all but the biggest engines hatches.

Could anyone please help us out what hatch (not Hot hatch) should she be looking for?

and before u say tell her to get a corsa, she doesnt like the look of em and insurance is an issue shes looking for somthing with a years free!


I'd say the new Fiesta Ghia. That's what i was after but couldn't afford one so had to do with a Peugeot 106.
Robbo
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According to WhatCar? magazine, the Seat Ibiza 1.2 is the reigning king of superminis
Kris TD
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seat ibiza, family over the road have just got the basic 1.2 model. and its very nice. only 7500 too.

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