broster
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after my car and aritchies went on the rollers today with these mods
mine both 1.4 16v:-
scorpion grp a cat back
lexmaul inlet
super chip
viper induction kit
i got 109bhp and 100lbft torque
aritchie:-
sportex back box with standard mid section
de-cat
janspeed 4-2-1 manifold
lexmaul inlet
viper induction kit
super chip
he got 105bhp and 86lbft torque
would the exhaust i have make the difference in the torque and power that we have? or is this just a good example of a good engine and a bad engine, or is it just my exhaust?
also for all the people that doubt superchips aritchies car went in without one and gained 90bhp, with the superchip it got 105bhp!!! took out a big flatspot and hell post his graph up later!
aritchie's graph
my graph
[Edited on 07-11-2003 by broster]
[Edited on 07-11-2003 by broster]
[Edited on 07-11-2003 by broster]
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Greasemonkey
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is that figure at the wheels cos otheriwse thats standard
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DC
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They both 1.4 16v am guessing. It should b 90bhp standard so with his mods but without the chip to only get 90bhp i would b a little disappointed.
Does sound lik an example of a good and a bad engine lik u said!!
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DC
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i would b very surprised if ya back box alone was making 4bhp difference and a whole 14lft torque
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broster
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now with graphs!
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Greasemonkey
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ahh i thought they were 1.6
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broster
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nope both 1.4 16v's, not bad power from mine, cant help but think that aritchie is a tad disapointed with the torque differences we have!
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Daimo B
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I am quite dissapointed with those results tbh. SHould be seeing a lot more i think.
2nd graph is a nice line though!!!!
This is why i wouldn't purchase the LExmaul inlet manifold.
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DC
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quote:
Originally posted by broster
nope both 1.4 16v's, not bad power from mine, cant help but think that aritchie is a tad disapointed with the torque differences we have!
Can ya blame him, 
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broster
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to be honest with u Daimo, its better than i was expecting, and as regards the lexmaul inlet, i find it more than adaquate for my needs, i wanted somethink i can fit meself, not end up paying loads for to get it fitted! the rolling road operator was happy with the results from my graph, dit puzzeled by aritchies tho, but with a few tweeks with the cold air feed seemed to improve it
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miles
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Your exhaust system should easily be overcome by his 4-2-1 manifold.
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broster
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quote:
Originally posted by DC
Can ya blame him,
think my comment may have been a tad sarcastic! fink an exhaust will make a bit of a difference on his car tho, so will try it out
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broster
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quote:
Originally posted by miles
Your exhaust system should easily be overcome by his 4-2-1 manifold.
i believed this also, but what else could it be, can it br that my engine is just stronger??
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miles
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How do they compare on the road?
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DC
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i didnt think u were being sarcastic mate. Bet he is a little pissed that yours out performed his having the 4-2-1 manifold
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broster
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well mines got more pull to it, hes got 17's on so ud expect a difference! he said mine feels alot quicker, but that was b4 he drove his. with the 14ftlb torque difference id belive there to be a noticable difference.
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Ant
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to be honest i just dont get it?? the only thing i can think is it had shite fuel on the day.
I always knew my car had less power from driving it.
If you think about it though my exhaust set up is pretty crap std centre and sportex back box cant be helping at all with all the fuel and air im trying to ram into it.
I have heard stories of gaining upto 7bhp through an exhaust so perhaps this should be next.
Any other ideas on why there is such a BIG differance?
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broster
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quote:
Originally posted by aritchie
Any other ideas on why there is such a BIG differance?
just that my car is far more superior to urs! lol! its wierd why there is so much difference in torque!
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Ant
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quote:
Originally posted by broster
quote:
Originally posted by aritchie
Any other ideas on why there is such a BIG differance?
just that my car is far more superior to urs! lol! its wierd why there is so much difference in torque!
no i have told u it was because i had to take my sun strip off.
cant see it losing any power through the bottom end so a head change might be in order.
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broster
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yeah, loosing that sun strip lost so much power, least u still got ur stick on fuel cap and saxo spoiler to keep the car runnin, its just unbalanced with out any neons tho! possibly be able to rectify this problem simply by getting some neon washer jets!
also just like to point out that re-setting the ecu works, as aritchie will explain
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ffls
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My car has 115bhp with superchip, Mantzel Power Box, K+N Panel Filter with two cold feeds 7600rpm rev limit, Group A exhaust+blocked EGR valve +increased fuel pressure.
You have to increase the rev limit to get the power, max power is at 7000RPM
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Ant
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quote:
Originally posted by ffls
My car has 115bhp with superchip, Mantzel Power Box, K+N Panel Filter with two cold feeds 7600rpm rev limit, Group A exhaust+blocked EGR valve +increased fuel pressure.
You have to increase the rev limit to get the power, max power is at 7000RPM
increased fuel presure blocked egr? tell me more
was hopeing for about 115 with my mods as lexmaul does not give as much top end as mantzel but its easy to fit/remove as broster has explained above
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broster
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ur on a mission now aint u aritchie! u mist a good nite tonight.
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Ant
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come on someone must have some idea
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corsa120
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i find very strange m8 why your car is so low an brosters is high
i mean the 1.4 16v is 92 ibf.ft of torque standard and you are not even gettin that standard or with them mods, to only get 90 bhp from ur car with those mods is strange theres sommat not right with your car m8
if you ask me you should be pushing if not same but more than mark coz u got a 4-2-1 and decat they should be making up for ur standard mid-section
i dunno i took broster on last nite for a short blast in northampton an im running nearly standard 1.6 16v an he got just about cars length ahead upto about 55-60
we had to slow down then but think it would very close after that as thats when 1.6 comes in after about 80 but who knows,
broster has good engine there pulling alot remeber mattc 1.4 16v with 137 bhp he only recorded 103 ibf.ft so his engine is strong
id get ur's looked at aritchie try a cripton tune that tells whether the air/fuel is correct and it checks all sensors etc cost 40 quid in daventry
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