Icy
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on motherboards and memory
do i have to buy memory that matches the motherboards? ie ddr333 400 etc?
dunno which kind of motherboard to buy
what does anyone recommend?
wana be runnin 2x512mb memory
and probably 2800xp
got lists today at the places i get bits
athlon k 2800 xp £97
athlon 2800 xp 333 fsb barton £105
what is better? whats the fsb barton bit
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Icy
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and does anyone know any sites to see/buy tower cases
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www.x-case.co.uk for cases..
www.ebuyer.co.uk for cheap computer bits
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Yes you need memory that your motherboard supports, if it isnt on the specification then go to the makes website, download the manual and check that 
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uh I THINK with the barton biz its just a different core, some claim that it runs hotter/faster, just get the cheapest I say, if you get the OEM version it doesnt come with a heatsink/fan but if you get the RETAIL version, it will come with it
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Icy
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thanks
yeh been seeing oem and retail versions
but mate sed the fans that usually come with it r shit.
what aboht motherboards?
how i knw whats good
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With the entire range of Athlon XP's ive found the MSI K7N2 Delta wins 
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Icy
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Chaintech 7NJS Zenith DDR400,LAN,Firewire,Audio,Raid £90.00
Price Inc
ATX, 200/266/333MHz FSB NVIDIA nForce2 SPP+MCP-T, Dual DDR400, AGP8X IEEE1394, LAN, 6ch Audio w/ SPDIF, S-ATA, RAID, USB2.0
£105 anygood?
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Scrap the AMD, get a '2.4GHz P4 (800FSB) with Hyper Threading' and an Intel board, no hassle, nice and quick.
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Icy
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quote:
Originally posted by DAYZEE
Scrap the AMD, get a '2.4GHz P4 (800FSB) with Hyper Threading' and an Intel board, no hassle, nice and quick.
more £££ tho
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£200 for the chip and a board to run it on.
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Adam
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fsb is the Front Side Bus, this determines the speed of the memory i.e 333ddr or 400ddr etc
The fan that come with the retail cpu will be one that the manafacturer has tested and it will be able to cope with the cpu temps.
I don't like amd so I'm not sure what the differences are with the one above.
If you are building it yourself you will need to check the memory supported by the motherboard and what is the highest cpu it will take, it's better to get a mobo that can support a faster cpu than you are getting so you can upgade in the future
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^^^^^^^^^ all sound advice.
but if you are cheap for cash, go with the AMD crew.
Also I've seen AMD athlons kick the shit out of P4's running applications such as John the ripper.
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Icy
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gona build this to photoshop on so need space n fast mem
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id always choose amd
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darkstar
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This is a nice AMD board by ABIT CLICK HERE
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Icy
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sounds good n has what i need n more
see what prices i can find for that
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Icy
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whats a good make for hardrives
think my last one was western digital
they meant to be shite eh?
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Adam
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western digital is pretty good.
Your new mobo should support serial ATA which is the new standard for hard drives and they are a lot faster then the old ide ones. Depending on your budget I'd go for a Western Digital Raptor Drive
http://www.overclockers.co.uk/acatalog/westerndigital_sata.html
I i was you I'd go for a MSI 848P Neo-LS which is about £37 from PC World and a Intel Pentium 4 2.8GHz (800FSB) with HT Technology which is about £170, then for memory TwinMOS 1GB (2x512MB) DDR PC3200
That will give you a very good spec PC for just over £300 + the case, monitor, keyboard, mouse and power supply
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Icy
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thanks
need to have another browsy on the sites tonight
so with athlon its more complicated with all the compatibility and with pentium its kinda straight forward anything goes?
wana spend up 1k thats includin a monitor
mmmmm decisions decisions
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Monitor - Mitsubish Diamond Plus 230SB 22" £370
Mobo - MSI 848P Neo-LS £40
CPU - Intel Pentium 4 2.8GHz (800FSB) with HT Technology £170
Memory - TwinMOS 1GB (2x512MB) DDR PC3200 £116
DVD/r/rw - MSI DR8-A 8x DVD±R/±RW - Retail £100
PSU - Q-Tec 450W Dual Fan Gold PSU £24
Graphics Card - Creative ATI Radeon 9600 256MB £98
Microsoft Wireless Optical Desktop £40
Enlight Endura EN-7250 Case £56
Total of - £1008
[Edited on 06-01-2004 by Adam]
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Adam
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That's just from 1 site (overclockers.co.uk) but I'm sure you could get it cheaper if you looked around a bit
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Case: Coolermaster Centurion CAC-T01S (link): £44.65
PSU: Enermax 465W EG465AX-VE-G-FMA II (link): £58.69
Motherboard: Asus A7V600-X (400FSB) (link): £51.11
CPU: AMD *Retail* Athlon XP 2800+ *333 FSB* Barton (2.08 GHz) with AMD Heat Sink Fan 3Yr (link): £108.43
Memory: 2 * 512Mb DDR400 (no link available): £90.48
Floppy Drive: Mitsumi 1.44" FDD + 7-in-1 card-reader (link): £19.09
Hard Drive: Western Digital 120Gb WD1200JD S-ATA (link): £83.43
Graphics: Gainward (4950) 256Mb FX5600 Ultra/780 (link): £106.93
DVD-RW: Sony DWU-14A Ivory (link): £79.84
Monitor: 22" Iiyama CRT VM Pro 513 (link): £375.94
Keyboard: Microsoft Wireless Optical Desktop Keyboard & Mouse (K51-00044) (link): £37.31
Total: £1055.99
It goes a bit above £1k, but plenty of scope to downgrade things there, without seriously affecting the performance, if the £1k mentioned was an absolute maximum to spend...
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my dad has a 21" CRT for sale if you are interested, he just got a 19" LCD to replace it.
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Abit NF7-S v2.0 nForce2 (Socket A) Motherboard (MB-028-AB)
£63.90 £63.90
AMD Athlon "Barton" XP2500+ 333FSB (Socket A) CPU - Retail (CP-040-AM)
£58.50 £58.50
Corsair 1GB DDR XMS3200LLPT TwinX (2x512MB) CAS2 (MY-018-CS)
£163.50 £163.50
IBM/Hitachi Deskstar 7K250 160GB 8MB Cache - OEM (HD--016-IB)
£79.95 £79.95
Antec PlusView 1000AMG Metallic Gray File Server Case - No PSU (CA-002-AT)
£51.90 £51.90
Antec TruePower 430W PSU (CA-001-AN)
£56.50 £56.50
Hitachi CML174SXWB 17" TFT Monitor (Carbon) (MO-001-HI)
£312.20 £312.20
Coolermaster Aero 7+ (Socket A) (HS-006-CM)
£19.95 £19.95
PowerColor Radeon 9800 Pro 128MB - Retail (GX-006-PC)
£199.95 £199.95
Creative Sound Blaster Audigy 2 - OEM (SC-015-CL)
£46.70 £46.70
Samsung SW-252F 52x/52x/32x CD-ReWriter (White) - Retail (CD-016-SA)
£20.90 £20.90
Subtotal £1,073.95
VAT £187.94
Total £1,261.89
that would be a nice quick system for u
prices were taking from overclockers.co.uk
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