boyracer2002
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Registered: 10th Aug 02
Location: West Yorkshire
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Jus got asked to move someone at works car cos its snowing like fek and they darent drive as the roads are white  coming down the road when the fekin abs kicked in propa shit mi sen as car was slidin down sideways opposite lock with handbreak on haha nothing i could do but i managed now  dint even bump it
Anyone else hate abs in this weather?
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J da Silva
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Registered: 10th Apr 03
Location: The FACTory
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never had it , i hate power steering aswell, dunno why just prefer to have normal rack instead of PAS
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GLSi GUY
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Registered: 5th May 02
Location: Preston, Lancs
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i like power steering cos i have fucked up my right arm (car surfing - dont ask)
but i HATE ABS!!! its gay!
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boyracer2002
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Registered: 10th Aug 02
Location: West Yorkshire
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I aint got abs on my corsa or power steering, dont need it but power steering would be better sometimes but dont bother me
Jus other peoples cars : especially in snow
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Ryan L
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Registered: 4th Mar 03
Location: Essex
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ABS = Anti-lock braking system
Why would it make you skid???
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Gavin
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Registered: 3rd Apr 02
Location: West Midlands
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it get so light when u have power steering and u hit black ice or sumthing like that....u go 
pew pew pew pewwwww
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boyracer2002
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Registered: 10th Aug 02
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quote:
Originally posted by Ryan L
ABS = Anti-lock braking system
Why would it make you skid???
Mate u cant help sliding on ice the abs jus juddered the car like fek makin it well shit
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Dave
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Registered: 26th Feb 01
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Ice confuses the ABS system. It works by releasing the brakes when it senses a skid, then re-applies them when the wheel begins to rotate again. When your are on ice it just repeats in a viscious circle so actually becomes worse than standard brakes.
It is possible to overcome this, someone on MIG suggested a good idea of wiring in a temporary switch to turn the ABS off in icy conditions.
Don't be put off ABS though, in regular road conditions which we have 99% of the year it will stop you better than anybody with a conventional brake set up could ever hope to.
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J da Silva
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Registered: 10th Apr 03
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i just use the gears for brakin, i do it anyway in normal conditions, hittin the brakes releases any traction u have on ice, creates friction
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Dave
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Registered: 26th Feb 01
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Creates friction? If you had more friction you wouldn't be sliding!!
I agree engine braking is a good idea though, try to keep moving too if possible, trying to get going again can be an arse, I had a mare driving works RWD van today. Tiny first gear and no weight in back means it spins up proper easy!
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J da Silva
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Registered: 10th Apr 03
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quote:
Originally posted by CorsaDave
Creates friction? If you had more friction you wouldn't be sliding!!
I agree engine braking is a good idea though, try to keep moving too if possible, trying to get going again can be an arse, I had a mare driving works RWD van today. Tiny first gear and no weight in back means it spins up proper easy!
my point exactly, if u go ice skating and u pull a skid, your gunna slide, HEY PRESTO its resolved
as for the weather, why cant the uk be nearer the equator? less hassle
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Ian
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Registered: 28th Aug 99
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Locking the wheels in snow is better purely because of the build up of snow in front of the wheel.
ICE I'm not sure about, a turning wheel is better than a locked one.
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Demo
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Registered: 27th Sep 01
Location: south wales Drives: astra sri ecoflex
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abs dont do jack on the ice
once your sliding your fucked
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Dave
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Registered: 26th Feb 01
Location: Lancs
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Not if it keeps turning though. The problem with ABS is that it doesn't control the amount of breaking power, it just turns it off and on, therefore when it lets go it locks it straight back up again by applying the brake with full force, then lets go again and so on. A person with a good understanding of braking will be able to stop better in ice without ABS as they have full control and can vary the brake pressure.
There is an interesting thread on MIG about it at the moment.
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