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SetH
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Mainly for those that were interested:

Going for the following from Courtenay:

Remap
Injector clean
Airbox and induction rework
Performance high flow filter
Reworked high flow throttle body and inlet centre section
High flow inlet manifold divider
4 bar fuel pressure regulator

Should see at least 30bhp from that which will take it up to 225BHP, Torque will probably be about 210-15 lb/ft.

Lightened flywheel (9 kgs reduction)

Stock flywheel is 15kg, should see about a half second of 0-60 with the lightened one.

Quaife LSD, AGain on this car courtenay reckon about a half second of 0-60.

Hopefully will be looking at high 6`s 0-60, will be hoping for high 14`s 1/4 mile. Will have to get it on the strip
Adam-D
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u got too much £££
Marc
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Whats involved in the induction rework?
SetH
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quote:
Originally posted by Adam-D
u got too much £££


Well i was originally looking at newer facelift veccy GSi`s which were like 7-10k. Managed to find a pre facelift with only 56k on for a hell of a lot less so figured get the cheaper/older car and rest on mods.

marc have a look under the tuning section then the V6 page for details: http://www.courtenaysport.co.uk/default.htm
Greg_M
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cortney? like getting ripped off and paying over the odds then
SetH
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They have done work on 2 of my corsas before and too a very high standard, also been to them for servicing and had a head rebuild, again excellent standard of work and very knowledgable/helpfull staff. John shield took me round the workshop and showed me round a C16XE lump illustrating the silly air induction route and showed me the manztel powerbox when they first got me in. So I think they are well worth what they charge, what are the alternatives regal?
Greg_M
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yeah they are good, but still too expensive, have you thought of velos?
vibrio
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quote:
Originally posted by SetH
Mainly for those that were interested:

Going for the following from Courtenay:

Remap
Injector clean
Airbox and induction rework
Performance high flow filter
Reworked high flow throttle body and inlet centre section
High flow inlet manifold divider
4 bar fuel pressure regulator

Should see at least 30bhp from that which will take it up to 225BHP, Torque will probably be about 210-15 lb/ft.

Lightened flywheel (9 kgs reduction)

Stock flywheel is 15kg, should see about a half second of 0-60 with the lightened one.

Quaife LSD, AGain on this car courtenay reckon about a half second of 0-60.

Hopefully will be looking at high 6`s 0-60, will be hoping for high 14`s 1/4 mile. Will have to get it on the strip




your taking the piss right. 30hp from an enlarged throttle body, a FSE, and a superchip
Andy
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Well actually, I was thinking the same but was too shy to say it
vibrio
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quote:
Originally posted by Andy
Well actually, I was thinking the same but was too shy to say it


not according to the AA
Tom
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that's reasonable in a 2.5 v6 isn't it?

Kerry
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quote:
Originally posted by vibrio
quote:
Originally posted by Andy
Well actually, I was thinking the same but was too shy to say it


not according to the AA


pmsl



love u andy
SetH
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As standard these engines have a serious breathing problem vibs, you can free up worthwhile amounts of power just by sorting the breathing.

We have a new throttle body conversion for the 2.5 Vectra. The throttle body is supplied on an exchange basis.
The conversion involves the standard throttle body being stripped down. The housing is machined out to accommodate a larger throttle butterfly which is attached to a new low profile spindle, providing a 21.5% increase in throttle area at full throttle. This gives an increase of 6-8 BHP

Suitable for 2.5 V6 24v (C25XE) 170ps engines as used in Calibra and Cavalier, the Courtenay-Mantzel Powerbox inlet manifold produces an 8 bhp power gain

thats erm about 16bhp, where does the rest come from? Sorting out the air box definately frees a few bhp up, if you looked at a standard one you would know why so maybe a few bhp there, I dont know how good an FSE is on these engines, but they respond quite well to a decent remap so maybe a few bhp there as well. See its not that far off 30, and i forgot to mention the Scorpian GPA full system im getting too.
vibrio
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quote:
Originally posted by Tom D
that's reasonable in a 2.5 v6 isn't it?





so just because it is a 2.5 V6 you expect 30hp from a superchip, an FSE, and an enlarged throttle body area

[Edited on 02-02-2004 by vibrio]
SetH
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dont forget that > Mantzel Powerbox inlet manifold

I dont care if it doesnt make their claimed power anyway as its going to improve the way the car drives no end, standard V6 vauxhalls are very lazy and laid back, sorting the breathign will pep it up a bit and give it some punch, the LSD and Lighter flywheel will make a huge difference also. Netherless i will get a before and after RR done.
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quote:
Originally posted by SetH
As standard these engines have a serious breathing problem vibs, you can free up worthwhile amounts of power just by sorting the breathing.

We have a new throttle body conversion for the 2.5 Vectra. The throttle body is supplied on an exchange basis.
The conversion involves the standard throttle body being stripped down. The housing is machined out to accommodate a larger throttle butterfly which is attached to a new low profile spindle, providing a 21.5% increase in throttle area at full throttle. This gives an increase of 6-8 BHP

Suitable for 2.5 V6 24v (C25XE) 170ps engines as used in Calibra and Cavalier, the Courtenay-Mantzel Powerbox inlet manifold produces an 8 bhp power gain

thats erm about 16bhp, where does the rest come from? Sorting out the air box definately frees a few bhp up, if you looked at a standard one you would know why so maybe a few bhp there, I dont know how good an FSE is on these engines, but they respond quite well to a decent remap so maybe a few bhp there as well. See its not that far off 30, and i forgot to mention the Scorpian GPA full system im getting too.



don;t be a fool Set

£1500 fitted is crap.

UNICHIP £450
Throttle body £250

you'd probably see around 15hp with that

Andy
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love you too Kerry

(just wait till I catch up with you!)
vibrio
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quote:
Originally posted by Andy
love you too Kerry

(just wait till I catch up with you!)



you can't even out run me at your top speed andy
Kerry
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quote:
Originally posted by SetH
standard V6 vauxhalls are very lazy and laid back, sorting the breathign will pep it up a bit and give it some punch


i have to agree with this comment after gaining an approx 13 bhp from the viper ind kit and cat back zorst

wish i got decat now
Tom
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I've heard very good things about the lightened fly aswell, and vibrio the power gains sound reasonable, I thought that cos' of kerry's power increases from her viper and exhaust
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quote:
Originally posted by Kerry
quote:
Originally posted by SetH
standard V6 vauxhalls are very lazy and laid back, sorting the breathign will pep it up a bit and give it some punch


i have to agree with this comment after gaining an approx 13 bhp from the viper ind kit and cat back zorst

wish i got decat now



I would like to comment that you id not make 13bhp as your car was not on the rollers without the aformentioned modifications
vibrio
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quote:
Originally posted by Tom D
I've heard very good things about the lightened fly aswell, and vibrio the power gains sound reasonable, I thought that cos' of kerry's power increases from her viper and exhaust




no they do not sound reasonable. you are a fool to believe such a thing
Kerry
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quote:
Originally posted by vibrio
quote:
Originally posted by Kerry
quote:
Originally posted by SetH
standard V6 vauxhalls are very lazy and laid back, sorting the breathign will pep it up a bit and give it some punch


i have to agree with this comment after gaining an approx 13 bhp from the viper ind kit and cat back zorst

wish i got decat now



I would like to comment that you id not make 13bhp as your car was not on the rollers without the aformentioned modifications


i put approx as im goin on standard figures
vibrio
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quote:
Originally posted by Kerry
quote:
Originally posted by vibrio
quote:
Originally posted by Kerry
quote:
Originally posted by SetH
standard V6 vauxhalls are very lazy and laid back, sorting the breathign will pep it up a bit and give it some punch


i have to agree with this comment after gaining an approx 13 bhp from the viper ind kit and cat back zorst

wish i got decat now



I would like to comment that you id not make 13bhp as your car was not on the rollers without the aformentioned modifications


i put approx as im goin on standard figures



mine put out 10hp more standard
Tom
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quote:
Originally posted by vibrio
quote:
Originally posted by Tom D
I've heard very good things about the lightened fly aswell, and vibrio the power gains sound reasonable, I thought that cos' of kerry's power increases from her viper and exhaust




no they do not sound reasonable. you are a fool to believe such a thing


As mentioned several thousand times i don't care what u think so

SetH should be well pokier and more responsive with those mods and i've read a few articles on people who have done the same sort of mods to the c25xe and they seemed pleased with it

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