drunkenfool
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as above please 
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Daimo B
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Corsa is about 950-970 with no people and 1/2 tank of fuel.
1.6 engine is about 70-80kg
Redtop is 120kg.
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drunkenfool
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so about a ton then?
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Daimo B
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Oh, and my car, even with false floor, V6 brakes, rear discs, smooth boot, skirts (Stienys are heavvvvy) and 1/2 tank it came out at 1.02 tonnes. So it will still be less than a tonne.
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Ditch
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never knew there was such a big difference in wieght between a 1600 and a redtop 
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drunkenfool
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cheers daimo 
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Marc
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I see Ned Powers stats are totally out then!!!
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Daimo B
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quote:
Originally posted by Ditch
never knew there was such a big difference in wieght between a 1600 and a redtop
Small block and big block engines. Gearbox alone make up shedloads. Soooo much more hevier than the F13/F15.
In fact, if u were to weigh JUST the engines, without wiring etc, i bet the redtop would only bit 10-20kg heavier.
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Ditch
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yeh the box was all I could think of to make extra weight, but not 40-50kg!
well ya learn somethin new every day...
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ed
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Wicked power to weight ratio then... But then, a tuned C16XE could make a similar power to a C20 could it not? That would be even better 
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Andy
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quote:
Originally posted by Ditch
yeh the box was all I could think of to make extra weight, but not 40-50kg!
well ya learn somethin new every day...
Take a look at a 50kg dumbbell. They're pretty small really - iron is heavy stuff; you'd only need a small increase in engine block dimensions to add 50kgs
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Tom
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quote:
Originally posted by 1800ed
Wicked power to weight ratio then... But then, a tuned C16XE could make a similar power to a C20 could it not? That would be even better
Yes but much more expensive and not as much torque.
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SetH
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quote:
Originally posted by Andy
quote:
Originally posted by Ditch
yeh the box was all I could think of to make extra weight, but not 40-50kg!
well ya learn somethin new every day...
Take a look at a 50kg dumbbell. They're pretty small really - iron is heavy stuff; you'd only need a small increase in engine block dimensions to add 50kgs
This man speaks the truth.
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drunkenfool
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there was a thread recently about difference between tuned 1.6s and standard 2.0s. General consensus was that the 2.0 wins because of the torque, even if the 1.6 has slightly more bhp.
[Edited on 21-04-2004 by drunkenfool]
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ed
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And then you could tune the C20XE up and it'd piss all over the little C16 anyway, no matter how much tuning you did to it... Is there anywhere I can find some performance figures for a C20'd Corsa, whenever I have done a search I always find some figures, then somone else has posted that thos figures are wrong 
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drunkenfool
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do you want standard performance figures? 150/157 bhp (C20XE/20XE), 0-60 in just under 7 seconds.
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ed
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Yea, standard, although mine 'might have a performance manifold and chip in it so it could be pulling a bit over 160bhp'  ... Fuck me - 0-60 in 7 secs!!! It's going in my 1.2 8v!!!
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drunkenfool
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*awaits to be told i gave the wrong figues* But yeah, definately around that. You will love it mate. Hopefully I will be able to test mine out tomorrow!
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Andy
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quote:
Originally posted by drunkenfool
there was a thread recently about difference between tuned 1.6s and standard 2.0s. General consensus was that the 2.0 wins because of the torque, even if the 1.6 has slightly more bhp.
[Edited on 21-04-2004 by drunkenfool]
The extra CCs in a 20XE will always give it an advantage in power and torque for a given amount of money spent on the engine. Yes you can tune up the 1.6 to over 200bhp, but you need to stick your hand deeper in your pocket than to get a 20XE over 200bhp. However, some people reckon that if you've got the wonga, this aint a bad route to go down because, all ohter things being equal, a lighter well sorted 1.6 will handle better than a well-sorted 20XE
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