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liamC
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28th May 04 at 22:36   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

Unlocking a mobile isnt illegal. Why trash that?

Or was it something which was said inside?

Adam
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28th May 04 at 22:39   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

it is illegal, you are breaking the contract
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28th May 04 at 22:39   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

even when the contract is over ??
Demo
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unlocking a phone is not illegal. once the phone is in your possesion then you can do as you please with it. the subsidy on the hadnset is made by from the networks from your line rental.

saying unlocking is breaking the contract and is illegal is about as daft as saying that you cant mod your car if you payed for it on finance cos youre changing the car that the finance funded
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quote:
Originally posted by Adam
it is illegal, you are breaking the contract


Did he say it was a contract phone? I didnt read the thread so I dont know.

If I bought a GX20 from Argos Pay As You Go which are only for Vodafone networks, but I had an o2 Sim Card seperately, I could get it unlocked and it wouldnt be illegal.
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28th May 04 at 22:47   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

Never mentioned if it was on a contract or not.

cant put what i did put or it will get deleted even though i said nothing illegal
J da Silva
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28th May 04 at 22:49   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

phone unblocking is not illegal, however when a mobile phone is nicked and police ask the network (eg orange,vodafone etc) to block the phone completely, having that unlocked is illegal
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28th May 04 at 22:49   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

quote:
Originally posted by Adam
it is illegal, you are breaking the contract



not correct dude
Adam
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28th May 04 at 22:51   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

You get the handset cheap as the network subsidises the cost due to the fact you will be spending the money with them over the next 12 months, if they didn't care about you putting in another networks sim then y would they lock it?
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quote:
Originally posted by matt h
quote:
Originally posted by Adam
it is illegal, you are breaking the contract



not correct dude


yup!

it's illegal to change the IMEI code (unique ID number of phone), but doing a SIM Unlock (all networks) isn't, all it will do is effectivly void any warranty you have under the contract.
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28th May 04 at 22:52   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

also it isnt illegal to change the imei number if you live in australia. so there
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28th May 04 at 22:53   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

well my last post before this is 100%correct, coppers and solicitors in the family helps you learn allsorts about the law
Demo
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28th May 04 at 22:54   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

unlocking to remove the sim lock on the handset is completely within the law
unblocking and changine the IMEI number of the phone after it has been barred off the network is illegal

quote:
Originally posted by Adam
You get the handset cheap as the network subsidises the cost due to the fact you will be spending the money with them over the next 12 months, if they didn't care about you putting in another networks sim then y would they lock it?


but they dont care what you do with it cos they get their subsidy back through the line rental and call charges

fraid you are 100% wrong on this one mate

[Edited on 28-05-2004 by Demo]
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28th May 04 at 22:56   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

they only way you can break a mobile phone contract is by not paying the bill because the line rental covers the cost of the free or cheap handset
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quote:
Originally posted by Demo
unlocking to remove the sim lock on the handset is completely within the law
unblocking and changine the IMEI number of the phone after it has been barred off the network is illegal

quote:
Originally posted by Adam
You get the handset cheap as the network subsidises the cost due to the fact you will be spending the money with them over the next 12 months, if they didn't care about you putting in another networks sim then y would they lock it?


but they dont care what you do with it cos they get their subsidy back through the line rental and call charges

fraid you are 100% wrong on this one mate

[Edited on 28-05-2004 by Demo]


How are they getting money if you stick another SIM in the phone? you won't be making calls on their number
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28th May 04 at 22:57   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

line rental covers the cost adam, ive checked anyway, its not illegal to unblock a phone to receive any network
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28th May 04 at 22:58   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

anyway bed time cya's
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28th May 04 at 22:58   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

agreed adam u r wrong, if u buy the phone, unlock it and use another network from day one they still get 12 months of money
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28th May 04 at 22:59   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

quote:
Originally posted by Adam
quote:
Originally posted by Demo
unlocking to remove the sim lock on the handset is completely within the law
unblocking and changine the IMEI number of the phone after it has been barred off the network is illegal

quote:
Originally posted by Adam
You get the handset cheap as the network subsidises the cost due to the fact you will be spending the money with them over the next 12 months, if they didn't care about you putting in another networks sim then y would they lock it?


but they dont care what you do with it cos they get their subsidy back through the line rental and call charges

fraid you are 100% wrong on this one mate

[Edited on 28-05-2004 by Demo]


How are they getting money if you stick another SIM in the phone? you won't be making calls on their number


it aint in the terms & conditions though! you are contracted to pay your line rental. nothing in the contract states that you must use the sim it is bought with



only problem that might occur is that orange can sometimes be quite picky if you have a faulty handset + you arent using the sim it was bought with. even if its another orange sim
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28th May 04 at 22:59   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

quote:
Originally posted by VenomTurbo
line rental covers the cost adam, ive checked anyway, its not illegal to unblock a phone to receive any network


this is why more expensive handsets are free on higher priced contracts

 
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