StuartVRS
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Where can i get one from, extremely quickly as i need it guaranteed to be here for Tuesday What companies do them?
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Andy_S
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wizards of nos
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vibrio
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why?? they are waste of money
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StuartVRS
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quote: Originally posted by vibrio
why?? they are waste of money
No they are not.
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vibrio
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yes they are.
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MattyB
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i dont agree with vibrio. The ability dramatically cool the intercooler at full boost is gonna bring perfromance gains. If i can feel the difference with just air + water on my intercooler, imagine what dropping 30-40deg. at full boost would be like!
I've read 2 articles on the web of people with them, and they said the temp drop on a std intercooler (on some american truck) was far greater than anyone had ever seen with an FMIC. Only drawback being, its not on permanently, but then again, only 2% of my driving is hard anyway.
Matt
Matt
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vibrio
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I fail to see how any kit which will leak CO2 into the engine bay which will most like get sucked up into the filer and then into the engine will be a good thing.
also truck intercoolers are designed for trucks not cars
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corb
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Wot if the car is running an airbox with cold air feeds from down the side of the bumper, no where near the spray?? Sure then its gonna be useful?
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MattyB
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yep like mine. i fail to understand Vibrio's reasons. My induction kit is well away from my intercooler which is in a sealed chamber anyway.
Its a good thing, especicially if u only need ur power occasionally
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vibrio
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waste of money. feel free to buy the shite
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StuartVRS
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quote: Originally posted by vibrio
waste of money. feel free to buy the shite
I will, and already have.
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MattyB
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me 2
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vibrio
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I wasted mine on hifi equipment. my stuff actually does something
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Drew
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i know a lad with a quick scooby, sonething silly like 400+ bhp, and on the rollers when he used the fmic spray - he actually lost bhp
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Nath
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quote: Originally posted by Drew
i know a lad with a quick scooby, sonething silly like 400+ bhp, and on the rollers when he used the fmic spray - he actually lost bhp
Super_Si's mate??
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Drew
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no - i doubt he knows him
this one exists anyway
[Edited on 09-07-2004 by Drew]
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Nath
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Kerry
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someone mentioned this to me and i wondered wot the pros cons and costs were
apparantly its quite popular in the scooby world as they have tmi's
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MattyB
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quote: Originally posted by Drew
i know a lad with a quick scooby, sonething silly like 400+ bhp, and on the rollers when he used the fmic spray - he actually lost bhp
But how? i just dont believe it, Unless he was using a system whereby co2 was allowed to enter the induction system somehow (like vibs mentioned earlier).
Co2 could actually freeze the intercooler, and keep it very cold throughout hard acceleration, which IMO can only bring positive effects to the engine. Alot better than any air scoop or waterspray.
Matt
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Kerry
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how much are they?
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Drew
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quote: Originally posted by MattyB
quote: Originally posted by Drew
i know a lad with a quick scooby, sonething silly like 400+ bhp, and on the rollers when he used the fmic spray - he actually lost bhp
But how? i just dont believe it, Unless he was using a system whereby co2 was allowed to enter the induction system somehow (like vibs mentioned earlier).
Co2 could actually freeze the intercooler, and keep it very cold throughout hard acceleration, which IMO can only bring positive effects to the engine. Alot better than any air scoop or waterspray.
Matt
maybe just to do with RR conditions or something - i dunno
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MattyB
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yeah probably. The people who are making up my kit have done it loads on Scoobs, Evos, loadsa other cars and have all had positive responses from all. The only real downside being its limited use. Get around 3min out of a 14lb bottle.
Kerry, i'm gettin individual bits as i've already got the bottle but a rough break down is:
£30 for the braided hosing
£80 for the solenoid
£50 for intercooler halo bar (optional, but gets an even co2 coverage to i/c)
£15 for connectors + brackets
+ bottle, which could cost anything upto £300 if u really wanted a big fancy polished thing. I'm using a 14lb ex-rocket car nitrous bottle that i got cheap. I am also installing it all myself, to again save money.
For me its gonna cost around £200 all in. Compare that to £295+vat for an uprated top mount i/c for mine, or £350+ for an FMIC (coz u need smaller fans, new pipework, inlet manifold adapter, re-work rad piping + modify bumper which would need repainting etc etc) its a bargain. I mean for runs up Santa Pod, its perfect, and is gonna keep charge temps lower than ANY FMIC or waterspray or anything.
Matt
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Kerry
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il just steal the bottle out the corsa then
it never gets used anyway
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StuartVRS
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i bought mine as a complete kit, from Wizard of Nos and will have it fitted on wednesday. Mine will be using 4 injectors and i dunno what size bottle it is......
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Kerry
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u think u can utilise a nos kit?
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