Stuckey
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URGENT - DVLA/Govt. trying to legislate against moddified cars...
http://www.dvla.gov.uk/public/consult/veh_inspec/vi_summary.htm
PLEASE everybody interested in being able to continue to engine swap, tube frame or significantly visually alter motor vehicles in the UK go to the DVLA web site and go through the nausea of completing thier online submission - also please request a copy of the consultation paper. Doesn't matter if you don't read it - they judge strength of public feeling on the number of them that the send out.
basically they are trying to screw anyone moddifying a car, and particularly those of us moddifying older cars (not allowing fitting of more modern components without having to re-register on a Q plate, having to go the SVA for your mods every time, etc.)
BTW kit means kit car built to original kit car spec not fitting a body kit.
Deadline is 19th July, they're sneaked this f*cker on us without any anouncement.
Ta.
EDIT: please copy the link and post it on any other suitable web sites. The consultation list they have for this excercise includes such bodies as "The Christian Road Safety League" and RoSPA and the Vehicle Scrap Dismantlers Association, and not anyone to do with modifying cars or the moddified vehicle industry - need as much support for this as possible.
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ed
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Registered: 10th Sep 03
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Radically Altered Vehicles
40. Radically altered vehicles are vehicles that have been substantially altered from their original specification, but are not kit conversions.
41. Although their appearance is different from the original they may still qualify to retain their original registration marks. The vehicle components used from the original vehicle are allocated a numeric value and provided the vehicle scores eight points or more it will retain its original mark.
42. The point system is weighted as follows; the original or new (direct replacement from the manufacturer) unmodified chassis/monocoque bodyshell has a value of 5, the suspension (front and back) 2, axles (both) 2, transmission 2, steering assembly 2, engine 1.
43. If the original registration mark is retained, the vehicle registration document is amended to record the vehicle’s new description but SVA is not required. If the vehicle is assessed as being a different vehicle the only option is to allocate a Q registration mark and the vehicle will be subject to one of the following depending on the vehicle category:
Enhanced Single Vehicle Approval (ESVA), (ESVA is not yet available in NI and if a vehicle requires ESVA it must be tested outside NI)
Single Vehicle Approval (SVA), or
(in NI) a Department Approval Certificate (DAC).
44. There are drawbacks with the current system in that a vehicle may retain its original mark even though it may show no resemblance to the original specification and that generally, other than the chassis/monocoque bodyshell/frame and the engine, the major components of the vehicle are not marked by the manufacturer.
45. The objective of the inspection for this category of vehicle is to establish if the radically altered vehicle contains enough of the original vehicle to retain the original registration mark.
46. We would like your views on
i. Whether the current system meets its objective; if not
ii. How would you like to see these vehicles assessed?
iii. Whether you consider that a vehicle whose appearance has changed from its original specification should retain its original registration mark?
iv. Whether you consider that, in the interests of road safety, all radically altered vehicles should be subject to ESVA/SVA/MSVA/DAC (NI)?
v. Who do you consider should carry out an inspection of such vehicles?
vi. How do you consider the current procedures can be improved?
vii. Whether you consider the examination of the documentary evidence an important part of the inspection process?
viii. Whether you regard the weighting values assigned to the vehicle components to be relevant?
ix. Whether you would be prepared to pay for the service? If not;
x. Who do you consider should bare the cost of the inspection?
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ed
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Registered: 10th Sep 03
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If the cost of getting the vehicle inspected was similar to an MOT then I can't see much of a problem. There must be a few cars out there which have had engines, brakes or suspension fitted badly by somone incompitent. Anyway, I always thought you needed to get an engineers report after you swapped the engine before it could be insured........
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Stuckey
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Registered: 5th Jun 02
Location: Plumstead, Greater London
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i dunno, just saw it and cut it and pasted it here, i never read it
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Joff
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Registered: 17th Oct 00
Location: Cambridgeshire
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quote:
Originally posted by Stuckey
URGENT - DVLA/Govt. trying to legislate against moddified cars...
http://www.dvla.gov.uk/public/consult/veh_inspec/vi_summary.htm
PLEASE everybody interested in being able to continue to engine swap, tube frame or significantly visually alter motor vehicles in the UK go to the DVLA web site and go through the nausea of completing thier online submission - also please request a copy of the consultation paper. Doesn't matter if you don't read it - they judge strength of public feeling on the number of them that the send out.
basically they are trying to screw anyone moddifying a car, and particularly those of us moddifying older cars (not allowing fitting of more modern components without having to re-register on a Q plate, having to go the SVA for your mods every time, etc.)
BTW kit means kit car built to original kit car spec not fitting a body kit.
Deadline is 19th July, they're sneaked this f*cker on us without any anouncement.
Ta.
EDIT: please copy the link and post it on any other suitable web sites. The consultation list they have for this excercise includes such bodies as "The Christian Road Safety League" and RoSPA and the Vehicle Scrap Dismantlers Association, and not anyone to do with modifying cars or the moddified vehicle industry - need as much support for this as possible.
Where is that on the site??
I only scanned the pages but didn't see any reference to any points that would make it difficult to legally modify a vehicle. All they want to do is be able to assertain the identity of the vehicle.
Just more red tape.
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Stuckey
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Registered: 5th Jun 02
Location: Plumstead, Greater London
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quote:
Originally posted by Stuckey
i dunno, just saw it and cut it and pasted it here, i never read it
^^^ joffery
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Joff
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Registered: 17th Oct 00
Location: Cambridgeshire
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k.
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vibrio
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Registered: 28th Feb 01
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seems to me like its somthing out of nothing
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