ed
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When doing an engine transplant into a Corsa, using a 2.0 16v engine that came from a Cavalier that was made before it was nevessary to have catalytic convertors into a Corsa that needs to have a catalytic convertor, where do I stand legally when it concerns fitting a catalytic convertor.
I have read loads of posts on this, and it all leads to people saying you do need one and people saying you dont need one.
I have read somehwere that all cars manufacturead after a certain date have to have one fitted. I have also read that all cars need to have one fitted if thier emissions are over a certain level. AND I have read that as there is no such thing as a 2.0 16v Corsa in the documentation provided by VOSA there is no set upper emissions limit, so the MOT people and Police can only do a basic smoke test on the engine...
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gazpeters
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anything from J-reg on needs a Cat to pass an MOT mate
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PaulW
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Ok
By Law, you DON'T require a catalytic converter on any car, there is no law saying this. However, there is a law which states after whenever it is (august 1992 or something) emissions on the vehicle MUST be below a certain amount, and the only way this is possible is by using a CAT or running the engine on hydrogen or something.
Alot of people make this out that its law you must have a cat.
Your right about the VOSA, there are no guides or levels as standard for corsa's with 2ltr engines, so as far as I'm aware they compare the results to the car the engine originated from, so if you CAN prove the engine is from a car prior to the new emissions laws, then in theory you shouldnt need a cat to keep the emissions down to pass. If it was after the date, then you probably will need to have the lower emissions, so will need a cat.
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big eck
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So long as the car the engine came out of dosnt need/have one then you dont need to fit one on the corsa
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ed
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It's off of a G reg Cav, and I have the V5. Gonna be doing my thing to help polute the world a bit more then  
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vibrio
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quote:
Originally posted by gazpeters
anything from J-reg on needs a Cat to pass an MOT mate
any thing from aug 93 needs a CAT
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Drew
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i dont know but
my L reg corsa with F?? (sri130) engine did NOT need a cat
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Kieran McMutrie
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I agree with Paul W. I can prove my engine is before 92 and that's good enough for my MOT even though the car is 96. I was always under the impression if the engine is pre 92 then thats ok.
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Corsalad87
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if engine is non cat u dont need one on ur car with this engine fitted simple as tht
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Ojc
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I fear I may have problems with getting a MOT for a car with 85 car with a 97 engine 
Back hander 
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jr
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quote:
Originally posted by Ojc
I fear I may have problems with getting a MOT for a car with 85 car with a 97 engine
Back hander
i had problems with getting a MOT becasue of no cat, i got a dodgy one, but i feel i wont be able to get another one as a week later my mot tester got shot and died 
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PaulW
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quote:
Originally posted by jr
quote:
Originally posted by Ojc
I fear I may have problems with getting a MOT for a car with 85 car with a 97 engine
Back hander
i had problems with getting a MOT becasue of no cat, i got a dodgy one, but i feel i wont be able to get another one as a week later my mot tester got shot and died
Thats one way to cover your tracks then for a dodgy MOT I guess...
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gazpeters
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So the emission rules apply to the engine and not the car?
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Ojc
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Now, just to make things even worse
I thought it the MOT tester went on the age of the car, not the engine.
So if the car in my case is a 85 and you don't need a CAT on car produce from 93 onwards then I am fine.
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J100RSA
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quote:
Originally posted by gazpeters
anything from J-reg on needs a Cat to pass an MOT mate
wong! anything made from august 1st 1992 needs a cat unless u fit an engine from a car made befor this date and u can proove it u dont need a cat fitted
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5door_jon
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in december/ january mot stations are getting new equipment and shortly after that they will be linked up to vosa so what will happen then?
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corb
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My XE came out of an F-reg astra and went into a '96 Corsa. Didnt need a cat, told them what year the engine was etc. so they didnt bother checking the emmisions. Still doesnt have a CAT, but this engine i have now, came out an L-plate cav  but i know the MOT tester.
Ollie, dont tell them what engine you have in the car, just say its a 1.6
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Ojc
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Will they not look under the bonnet?
I will probably get away with it TBH.
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FlamingCorsa
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when i got mot done for jag corsa i just showed the mot centre the engine number and if it stars with i C first it needs a cat in othwise its fine, so all u need is to prove the age of the engine to the mot centre thats all ed iaz
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3CorsaMeal
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20xe don't need cat
c20xe does need a cat
the C prefix is the emissions code
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3CorsaMeal
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quote:
Originally posted by Ojc
Will they not look under the bonnet?
I will probably get away with it TBH.
until they test ur emissions
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PaulW
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quote:
Originally posted by 3CorsaMeal
20xe don't need cat
c20xe does need a cat
the C prefix is the emissions code
so for the X20XE & X16XE, etc...
do you need an xavier in your exhaust system instead of a cat
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corb
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Find out what the cars emmisions SHOULD be for the year of the car, then test what it is without ya cat on there. if its ok, i'd keep quiet about it and let it sail through the MOT. what do they need to look under the bonnet for on an MOT? cant think
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Ojc
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Read this thread
http://www.novaload.net/forums/viewtopic.php?t=97527
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J100RSA
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im a tester u dont need a cat if u can prove ur engine came from a pre august 1st 1992 car its bollox about the if its a c20 bit if u engine came from a car registered befor 1St AUG 1992 u DONT need a cat but u must beable to proove it eg reg doc from donar car or service book with engine nunber and vin from donar
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