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Author Car wont start :(
Tom J
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30th Sep 04 at 23:02   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote
and i dont know why.
was fine this mornin, went to start it this evening, it turns over but wont start. checked the leads and the dizzy cap and arm, they all looked ok from what i could see.
its not battery. cant think whats wrong with it.
in Uni tomorow so at this rate i prob wont make the meet unless i get it sorted
Richie
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1st Oct 04 at 06:51   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote
u havent dropped ur keys recently tom have you?
James R
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1st Oct 04 at 08:33   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote
pull off a lead and put a spare spark plug in then get g/f or dad to turn it over to see if it's sparking ok. Then you need to check it's fuelling, normally by smell, but you can pull the inlet piping off to the TB to see it. if that's bad then you need to start from there.
Tom J
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what would droppin my keys have done?

i tried giving it some gas to see if it would start, and could smell petrol.

will have to check the sparks then
Richie
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1st Oct 04 at 09:32   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote
the engine management light not flashing when you try to start the car?
Tom J
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1st Oct 04 at 11:44   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote
all of the lights are coming on i think, oil light, engine management, battery but they usually do when u start up i thought. will have to have another look when i get home
Richie
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1st Oct 04 at 11:48   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote
no i mean when you are trying to start it..... not when u turn the ignition on.

If it was a pooter problem the light would flash.
Tom J
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1st Oct 04 at 11:53   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote
ah rite no it doesnt then.
it shouldnt be the plugs or leads because they have both been replaced in the last few months.
only things i can think of are something electrical or a fuel problem.
yesterday i was installing my amps and two power leads knocked together and it blew the fuse on one of the leads. i replaced it and all ice was working ok, u reckon it did something to the electrics? maybe i should check all the other fuses
Richie
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1st Oct 04 at 12:15   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote
could have blown the fuse for the fuel pump ect, or if you have an alarm fitted it can also interfere in that way, spesh if its a standard alarm
Tom J
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1st Oct 04 at 12:17   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote
got the toad ai606 with immobliliser. i know what it sounds like when its immobilised and it doesnt turn over at all
will check all fuses, if theyr all ok will have to call a mechanic to my house
Richie
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1st Oct 04 at 12:21   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote
yes, his name is James

Seriously tho i think that the ai606 has a dual circuit immobiliser. One to stop the engine from turning over, and another to cut spark/fuel pump?
Tom J
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1st Oct 04 at 12:24   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote
ok, i hope it isnt something to do with the alarm as sextons is right down in swansea, a long way from my car
kev_corsa
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1st Oct 04 at 12:39   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Richie
yes, his name is James

Seriously tho i think that the ai606 has a dual circuit immobiliser. One to stop the engine from turning over, and another to cut spark/fuel pump?


i think this is the case. i know for sure that there is defo one on the fuel pump
Richie
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1st Oct 04 at 12:48   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote
have a look later tom, if you still have no joy ill pop out to bridgend if you want
Tom J
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Thanks Richie, will have a look when i get home
James R
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Just check fuel and sparks first, then work back. fuses are a good idea, then check if the fuel pump works by bridging the back of the fuel pump relay with a bit of wire and see if it runs the pump. could have upset the alarm, can you turn it off then try to start it??
Tom J
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1st Oct 04 at 19:38   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote
checked fuses they are all fine
Rocky
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1st Oct 04 at 20:22   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote
gutting man get a car sparky on to it mate sounds dodgy as hell , i got to change me fan belt 2moro cant make it either
Aled
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Look at the battery see if all the earth returns are connected i had this problem a couple of days ago on my other car, one had been severed. Me and the mechanic thought it was a toad problem but alas it was not.
Tom J
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2nd Oct 04 at 22:11   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote
still no luck with the car, towed it to a mecahnic i know and he reckons its something electrical and he cant do it.
i just remembered i unplugged two multiplug type things behind the ECU cover in passenger footwell, and the alarm made like the clicking noise when you disactivate it. I think that it may have immobilised itself and thats why the car isnt starting, any ideas on how to reset the alarm or something?
Richie
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4th Oct 04 at 10:05   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote
hopefully ill get the fooker started later
Ally
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4th Oct 04 at 10:17   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote


Richie you have Broncitius .....

Im not looking after you when you make yourself worse
Tom J
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4th Oct 04 at 17:07   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote
no luck with the electrics, thanks for coming to have a look Richie. im sure this car wants to be burned
James R
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5th Oct 04 at 19:34   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote
Took a look today for tom, seem to be ignition realated, seemed to havea weak spark.
Nearly started once the leads were on the right way round

Don't worry Tom, I'm sure it's the coil or amp now, the spark was very weak, so probably being blown out.
Richie
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5th Oct 04 at 21:22   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote
i told you i thought it wasnt sparking tidy!



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