MoNkEy MaGiC
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whats the difference between these two types of speakers, which ones tend to be better and why and what features do each ones have???
im considering Alpine 17cm front components, as many people have them and say they are good, but ive never really been clear on this component/coaxial business 
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James@CCC
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components are 2 bits, mid and twetter with a crossover
coaxials have the tweeter inside the mid speeker
components are better but more expensive (in general)
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MoNkEy MaGiC
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oh i see 
so would it be better that i got Alpine Components as opposed to Alpine coaxials?? what about magnet sizes/depth??
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andy hirst
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components every time, dont limit yourself to just Alpine, they are good but you can get better for your money, what is your budget??
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MoNkEy MaGiC
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many people have Alpine components and say they are very good!!!!?
but anyway, im willing to pay a lot of money for good speakers, but for now say budget is about £100 for front speakers and £100 for rear speakers, which comps would be better than alpine in that price category then???
and are alpine V12 amps ok though???
[Edited on 24-04-2005 by MoNkEy MaGiC]
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AdiSRI
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the amps and comps are both harsh imo, i changed from my alpine amp to a audison amp and on the same speakers the audison was a LOT louder and smoother sounding, so i personally dont rate alpines amps.
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Mase
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quote:
Originally posted by AdiSRI
so i personally dont rate alpines amps.
not even the mrd-501 etc. ??
Mase
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MoNkEy MaGiC
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quote:
Originally posted by AdiSRI
the amps and comps are both harsh imo, i changed from my alpine amp to a audison amp and on the same speakers the audison was a LOT louder and smoother sounding, so i personally dont rate alpines amps.
huh! what do you mean by harsh mate?????
which Alpine speaker model did you have and which amp exactly??
i have a old Alpine Headunit, 60x4 with 3x 4volt pre outs, running a 2channel 180x2watts V12 Alpine amp on some old 2way Alpine 6x9 SPS 120wat speakers(not even type S or R) and it sounds fantastic!!!
and even many of my mates have said it sounds good, in terms of clarity, bass and trebble!!
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Scotty_B
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I had Alpine components and the tweeter is very ehh screechy if you know what I mean.
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AdiSRI
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exactly, scratchy, i had alpines best 4 channel amp, bridged onto the components giving out 140 odd rms a side, still was harsh and nasty and was a £450 amp..
I have a mrd-m300 mono amp and its pretty rubbish especially in SQ terms, you could try the NEW alpine amps tho, they look much improved.
Such as MRD- M601
http://caraudiocentre.co.uk/product.asp?product=20832
[Amplifier Power Features]
• Amplifier Link (05 type)
• Phase Selector
• Speaker Input (RCA conversion)
• RCA Pre-out
• Independent Variable Crossover
• Bass EQ (45Hz, +16dB)
• Subsonic Filter (OFF / 15Hz / 30Hz)
• Over Current Protection
• High Temperatur Protection
• STAR Circuit
• Digital Control Center Display
• Discrete Pre-amp Stage
• DC-DC PWM Power Supply
• MOS-FET Output & Power Supply Transistor
[Amplifier Power Specifications]
• Weight 3.9 kg
• Dimensions 290 x 60 x 220 mm
• 250W x 1 RMS (4ohm, 12.0V, 1% THD+N)
• 400W x 1 RMS (2ohm, 12.0V, 1% THD+N)
• 400W x 1 RMS (4ohm, 14.4V, 1% THD+N)
• 600W x 1 RMS (2ohm, 14.4V, 1% THD+N)
• Max. 1.000W x 1
• Frequency Response 20Hz-200Hz (200Hz, -3dB)
• S/N Ratio 90dBA
and
MRV - F545
[Amplifier Power Features]
• Bass EQ (45Hz, +16dB for CH3/4)
• Multimode Capability (CH3/4)
• MOS-FET Power Supply Transistor
• BI-POLA Output Transistor
• Amplifier Link (05 type)
• Phase Selector
• Speaker Input (RCA conversion)
• RCA Pre-out
• Independent Variable Crossover
• Over Current Protection
• High Temperatur Protection
• STAR Circuit
• Digital Control Center Display
• Discrete Pre-amp Stage
• DC-DC PWM Power Supply
• MOS-FET Output & Power Supply Transistor
[Amplifier Power Specifications]
• Weight 5.6 kg
• Dimensions 420 x 60 x 220mm
• Frequency Response 20Hz-20kHz (0, -1dB)
• Input Sensitivity 0.2-4V (at 10k ohm)
• S/N Ratio 96dBA
• 500W x 1 Bridge (4ohm, 14.4V, 0.3% THD, CH3/4)
• 125W x 1 Bridge (4ohm, 14.4V, 0.3% THD, CH1/2)
• 100W x 4 RMS (4ohm, 12.0V, 0.08% THD)
• 125W x 4 RMS (4ohm, 14.4V, 0.08% THD)
• Max. 225W x 4
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