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Tiger
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10th May 05 at 13:28   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

If this is imposed, as it seems likely to be over the next couple of years, will it affect you?

I know lads at work that go on call and work an easy 65-70 hours on their call out week. I know at the minute you can opt out of it, but what if it becomes enforced by law like in other European countries?

Ben.

[Edited on 10-05-2005 by Tiger]
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its 48 hours averaging over so many weeks

one week i work 39, the next i work 50 so unfortunatly my hours wont be reduced

[Edited on 10-05-2005 by Ally]
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will not affect me my working week is 37 hours always
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Mine is always between 39-45 so it wont affect me either....but i know some people rely on lots of overtime just to survive (Living beyond your means is something i consider daft anyway but thats just my opinion)
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Vote Labour...
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quote:
Originally posted by Joff
Vote Labour...


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I work 60 odd hours a week
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So, will it affect you when you cant work that many hours if it comes into force, which i say again, looks likely to happen?
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Will really fuck me up. Generally 70 hours a week. But in summer rises to anythingup to 80-90
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EU mulls ending Britain's long hours culture

BRUSSELS (Reuters) - The European Parliament may seek to impose a maximum 48-hour working week in Britain, ending the country's fiercely guarded opt-out from European Union law, deputies said on Tuesday.

The EU assembly votes on Wednesday on revising the working time directive that limits how many hours a week people can work across the 25-nation bloc.

Spanish Socialist deputy Alejandro Cercas wants the opt-out -- under which governments can allow firms to ignore the maximum 48-hour working week -- to be phased out over three years.

"The opt-out flagrantly runs counter to the very goals of the directive -- health and safety of workers," said Cercas, author of the report in Parliament.

"It runs counter to the (EU) constitutional treaty and the Charter of Fundamental Rights."

The constitution, agreed by EU leaders last year, has yet to be ratified by all 25 member states, and the charter, which is incorporated in that treaty, does not create new legally enforceable rights in member states.

The Spanish deputy said a vote to scrap the opt-out would help allay French concerns over firms moving to low-cost countries in eastern Europe with lighter social rules.

Those concerns are threatening to derail the approval of the EU constitution in a French referendum on May 29.

British Liberal Democrat deputy Chris Davies condemned the move to impose maximum working hours saying it would sink attempts to revive stagnant economic growth in Europe.

"Blanket controls imposed in every country by Brussels will limit the freedom of member states to decide the approach most appropriate for them," he said. "It's excessive and wrong."

The European People's Party, the conservative group which is the largest political force in parliament, holds the key to whether the bid to scrap the opt-out will be successful but has yet to decide how it will vote.

The centrist Liberals are opposed to ending the exemption while the Socialists, Communists and Greens are in favour.

Britain makes the most use of the opt-out and wants it maintained.

The EU executive Commission, author of the draft proposal, also wants to keep the opt-out, though with tighter rules governing its use. It wants to avoid a showdown with deputies.

"The Commission can't accept this (scrapping the opt-out)," said EU Employment Commissioner Vladimir Spidla. "We are willing to engage in discussions with parliament to find some compromise."

If parliament votes to scrap the opt-out, Britain would have to build a blocking minority among EU governments in the EU Council, which will have a final say on the issue.



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quote:
Originally posted by Tiger
quote:


EU mulls ending Britain's long hours culture

BRUSSELS (Reuters) - The European Parliament may seek to impose a maximum 48-hour working week in Britain, ending the country's fiercely guarded opt-out from European Union law, deputies said on Tuesday.

The EU assembly votes on Wednesday on revising the working time directive that limits how many hours a week people can work across the 25-nation bloc.

Spanish Socialist deputy Alejandro Cercas wants the opt-out -- under which governments can allow firms to ignore the maximum 48-hour working week -- to be phased out over three years.

"The opt-out flagrantly runs counter to the very goals of the directive -- health and safety of workers," said Cercas, author of the report in Parliament.

"It runs counter to the (EU) constitutional treaty and the Charter of Fundamental Rights."

The constitution, agreed by EU leaders last year, has yet to be ratified by all 25 member states, and the charter, which is incorporated in that treaty, does not create new legally enforceable rights in member states.

The Spanish deputy said a vote to scrap the opt-out would help allay French concerns over firms moving to low-cost countries in eastern Europe with lighter social rules.

Those concerns are threatening to derail the approval of the EU constitution in a French referendum on May 29.

British Liberal Democrat deputy Chris Davies condemned the move to impose maximum working hours saying it would sink attempts to revive stagnant economic growth in Europe.

"Blanket controls imposed in every country by Brussels will limit the freedom of member states to decide the approach most appropriate for them," he said. "It's excessive and wrong."

The European People's Party, the conservative group which is the largest political force in parliament, holds the key to whether the bid to scrap the opt-out will be successful but has yet to decide how it will vote.

The centrist Liberals are opposed to ending the exemption while the Socialists, Communists and Greens are in favour.

Britain makes the most use of the opt-out and wants it maintained.

The EU executive Commission, author of the draft proposal, also wants to keep the opt-out, though with tighter rules governing its use. It wants to avoid a showdown with deputies.

"The Commission can't accept this (scrapping the opt-out)," said EU Employment Commissioner Vladimir Spidla. "We are willing to engage in discussions with parliament to find some compromise."

If parliament votes to scrap the opt-out, Britain would have to build a blocking minority among EU governments in the EU Council, which will have a final say on the issue.






If you voted labour and moan about losing hours and shit! STFU!! have said already about blair signing half our own right over to these dumb f**kin brussel muppets! soon they will run our country with the dickhead in charge still

but no doesnt affect me "atm" likely to, to many family / friends.
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i aint read all that but i know you can sign a disclaimer to work more hours
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the 48 hour working week has been inplace for years already, you can choose for it not to apply for you in contract

imposition of this has no effect what government is in power

[Edited on 10-05-2005 by Greg_M]
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give a big thanks to the labour voters "noobs"
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what about if it is over 2 jobs?
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quote:
Originally posted by Greg_M
the 48 hour working week has been inplace for years already, you can choose for it not to apply for you in contract

Yes it has It is also being scrapped... probably not until 2010 tho
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quote:
Originally posted by topshot_2k
give a big thanks to the labour voters "noobs"
Like Greg says this has nothing to do with who the gov't is
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will fuck me up, in the summer i work 100+ hours a week, if they did impose it there wouldnt be any bread, biscuits as we couldnt cut the wheat/barley in time before it rots
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I am self employed I dont know how they think they can inforce this on people like me, I work 7 days a week and long hours, but I would rather do that than work for someone else.
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Theyt arent going to enforce it!!!!
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max i work is 40 hrs plus 1 week in 3 on call over weekend....
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I sometimes do 50 hour weeks, it's my choice I don't see why somone should stop me working that much if I want to work hard.

[Edited on 10-05-2005 by 1800ed]
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quote:
Originally posted by MatG
I am self employed I dont know how they think they can inforce this on people like me, I work 7 days a week and long hours, but I would rather do that than work for someone else.


They won't be able to, it's really only there for those that feel victims of their companies asking them to work longer than 48 hours a week.

I'll employed full-time but also have other work which would take me over the 48 figure.
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i can't wait for this to come into force i don't want to work as many hours as i do
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But if an employer needs a member of staff to work over 48 hours and there's other employees willing to do that, surely it's likely an employer would rather make someone redundant and hire a happy slave?

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