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Author My XE rolling road graph from yesterday
mav
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2.0 16v
straight through exhaust
ind kit
power cap
ecotek valve

little bit down on power i think..

ANy opinions welcome ppl...cheers



Twiggy
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Thats well down!!! Any comments from the mechanic??
vibrio
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the curve looks not too bad but the torque is a tad low. to be fair standard engine is 150hp/145lb ft (or is it 150 lb ft) torque
Adam_B
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quote:
Originally posted by REDSPORT
Thats well down!!! Any comments from the mechanic??


its standard power.

whats that lump at the start of the curve? wheels slipping on the rollers?


[Edited on 12-06-2005 by Adam_B]
Mattb
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try removing the ecotek valve, they make your car run lean...
Cybermonkey
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power does look a tad low, as does torque. Would be good figures for standard engine, but with the straight through and induction kit, you would hope to see at least the high 150's and same for torque too. Delivery looks clean though.
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straight through exhaust
ind kit
power cap
ecotek valve

these mods should have it pushing min 160bhp imo.....
mav
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12th Jun 05 at 15:39   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

i was hoping for 160 with the mods on there..

the mechanic said it was running fine no problems with the run..??

feels fine on the road too.....TBH 152 is a good figure for the engine but with the mods????

going to get a full service done and oil leak fixed (sump gasket)
starkie said could be something to do with gearbox...

the figures at the fly compared to the wheels does this look normal????

152 engine power and 117.9 at the wheels...is this the usual drop seen..??

starkie had similar drop and said it wasn't quite right???
big eck
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12th Jun 05 at 15:41   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

Mav this is my graph to compare all your car is probably needing is a good service and set up

mav
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cheers eck, showing the same sort of drop from engine to wheels....

yeah might get it on rollers.....£50 for a session and get kevin to fiddle with it...
corsa120
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yeh u seeem to be losing slight excess power through transmission, its normally about 10-15% loss through transmission

152bhp is standard power so u should be happy, powercap is crap, filter helps and zorst may gain 1-2bhp so all in all thats not bad

obviosly some healthier/stronger engine might pull that 8bhp ur after mav, dont just take that figure as ur power tho, u have to consider ambient temperature and everything, this vary throughout the day ........ u get me
mav
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yeah know what you mean.......

car runs good enough....had top end rebuilt not before i got it too...

had new valve\'s and guide\'s and oil seals full new head set bolts belts and pully\'s fully serviced.
StuartVRS
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thats a fair drop in power to the wheels, think thats not quite right tbh. Mav, id remove the ecotek valve, give it a full service and as said above get it set up on the rollers properly. Im pretty sure our audi only loses about 25bhp from fly to wheel power.
mav
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losing about same as eck though....35bhp from engine to wheels

going to do the above..

so worth taking the ecotek off then? i never fitted it was already on there

is it easy to remove...?
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quote:
Originally posted by mav
losing about same as eck though....35bhp from engine to wheels

going to do the above..

so worth taking the ecotek off then? i never fitted it was already on there

is it easy to remove...?


depends where it has been fitted tbh mate, ive never seen one on a car but i have heard a lot of bad things about them making cars run lean as said above. Got a pic of it?
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Mav gimme 5 mins ill look out the RR figures for our audi, ive had 5 or 6 done and ill see what the average power loss to wheels is, but 35bhp seems a hell of a lot.
mav
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12th Jun 05 at 16:00   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

cheers..

what was everybody elses loses????

ryan
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Mav, ive got 7 graphs here for the audi in various states, most i ever lost on the rollers was when we got 202bhp, lost 26.8bhp from fly to wheels, all the others are between 24-26bhp
Dave Helium
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well when i was at the same rolling road day on sat my drag was 34.9!!! and 30 bhp down what it should be! i wasnt realy impressed with there rollers!
big eck
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Is it true that the rollers cant measure the fly hp??? I'm in the middle of a discussion on another board and the lad says that all it is is a guess
mav
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cheers stuart...

well seems everybodis is about 30 odd...I'll look out my graphs for the vectra at dastek and see what that was, also old corsa at star..

dave looking at all the results think the rollers are quite accurate..all you have to do is look at the CTR results to see rollers seem fine....The rollers are meant to be one of the best around, been to a few rr days there...
mav
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dunno eck..??

Corsa XE at falkland = 152 at fly and 117.9 at wheels = 35 drop
Vectra V6 at dastek = 178 at fly and 126 at wheels = 52 drop
Corsa 1.6 at star = 118 at fly and 89 at wheels = 29 drop

big eck
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I think the drop in a FWD through the gearbox is 20% correct me if i'm wrong, fuk knows how to work it out though lol
mav
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aye i dunno......

all confused
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quote:
Originally posted by heliumhead
well when i was at the same rolling road day on sat my drag was 34.9!!! and 30 bhp down what it should be! i wasnt realy impressed with there rollers!



what power did you get and what have you done to it?

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