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Author F.A.O. of those that have tuned their 1.6! ***Updated***
Jamie Walby
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14th Jun 05 at 11:41   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

Following on from my earlier thread, what mods did you do and how much did you spend roughly? Also what BHP did you have after it all?

Is it Broster from here who has done a bit of work to his 1.6??



[Edited on 17-06-2005 by Jamie walby]
Ditch
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14th Jun 05 at 11:43   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

speak to Andy H... there is plenty of inspiration on his little car!!
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speak to beardy he's done some majormods to his 1.6. even got a v6 cam cover for it
Ojc
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Mildly and not silly amounts of money spent on there engines would be Broster, Greasemonkey, Col004, Fwaza Esquire.
Edd
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pretty sure greasemonkey said he wished he never bothered doing it?

[Edited on 14-06-2005 by Edd_20]
Ojc
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Yeah because the company who done it charged him the earth and led him up the garden path about it.
Edd
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thats right i remember,dont think it ever ran 100%
Jamie Walby
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Won't be any 'places' doing the work on my car! Dad and I can do all the work ourselves!
AK
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14th Jun 05 at 12:12   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

do this....

264 Cams - 350
Mantzel - 400+
ARP rod bolts - 70+
Unichip - 360+ (can they do rev limit changes yet)


Then if funds are avail -

Headwork - 400+

BUT

i'd swap the mantzel for TB's.... bigger initial outlay, but better performance
Siberia
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14th Jun 05 at 12:13   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

my engine came with manztel fitted so i just plonked it into the bay... 125BHP from just a manztel....
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i (well lee) transfered the sorted head from my 1.4 to my 1.6, very impressed by it
Greasemonkey
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I bought an engine from a company that had had a re-build, engine turned out to be dud so re-built it again with my mechanic who i trust, did 98% of the work myself, the amount i spent dont count because of set backs etc (2 engines for a start and 3 re-builds) so i spent nearly £3000 on the engine to get a pathetic 132BHP, and yes it never ran right because of it needing a re-map as it was 1625cc and the aftermarket chip was shit and coudlnt account for this
Greasemonkey
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14th Jun 05 at 12:19   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

Yes you can up a limit with unichip now, extra £100 or summit
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may as well just spend a bit extra on DTA or emerald fully amppable unit
AK
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14th Jun 05 at 13:02   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

a bit more.....

double
Jamie Walby
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quote:
Originally posted by Adam Kindness
do this....

264 Cams - 350
Mantzel - 400+
ARP rod bolts - 70+
Unichip - 360+ (can they do rev limit changes yet)


Then if funds are avail -

Headwork - 400+

BUT

i'd swap the mantzel for TB's.... bigger initial outlay, but better performance


Thanks, Thats pretty much what I was looking for! Would you say that all the above mentioned mods be done one by one or would some need to be complemented by others?
Greasemonkey
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ARP and mantzel and unichip together, Arp's to handle the rev limit change, unichip to change rev limit and map the new fuelling requirements and mantzel to help the engine breath easier.
With a manzel and TB's most power comes in at 5500rpm onwards so the ARP and needed to hold the bottom end together.
Head work can be done later with the cams.
As AK said go for TB's out the box with managment they give ya 160BHP apparently,speak to SBD about this
AK
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also add a bigger bore exhaust manifold....

I did this on my 1.4 (same engine basically)

If you have 1k now.....

Fit cams, rod bolts and Unichip

then save 1k more and fit mantzel and exhaust manifold

Jamie Walby
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14th Jun 05 at 13:16   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

Wheres the best place to get all this gear from?
Greasemonkey
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I think JR can get ya cheap ARP's about £65 i think
Mantzels aint made no more, but courteney sport might be able to get you one.
Unichip should be supplied and fitted by the specialist ya take it to to be mapped and set up on a Rolling Road
AK
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wont get it all from one place

Cams - Decent prices from NeedForSpeed
Mantzel - ptfff, good luck finding one
Rod Bolts - loads around.... SBD can supply them at a hefty price
exhaust manifold - PMC
Jamie Walby
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Cool! Im now thinking maybe just saving up for a few months, buying all the bits then giving it to a garage to fit all at once! Not sure if I can be doing with the hassle of fitting it all myself

Me and Dad have always done all work on cars ourselfs but how much do you guys reckon a decent garage will charge to fit these mods?
Ojc
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PMC exhaust manifolds are quite cheap as well.

£175 from FFWD I believe.

Will take you some time to get all the parts and then to find someone to do all the work at once.
Greasemonkey
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I fitted my mantzel in a day its quite straight forward, the arp's reqire you to drop the manifold and sump, then ya gotta remove caps off the rods and champher the bolt holes to evenly spread the load.
Cams leave to the experts if your not happy with timing an engine etc.
Jamie Walby
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Dad used to be a mechanic and own his own garages so he knows a few people that would do the work! Im also thinking if I was to buy the parts like I said and like OJC said it will some time, it will give me a chance to get another years NCB! Im in no rush either!

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