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Rhino
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3rd Dec 05 at 14:46   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote
Just scanned the graph of the g/f motor so though i would post it up.....
Not bad for a 1.4.....
109.4bhp and 118.1Nm.




[Edited on 03-12-2005 by Rhino]
big eck
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3rd Dec 05 at 14:48   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote
lookin good ryan, bit of a flat spot there thought
Rhino
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Yeah, just a bit...... knew it was there.
Spoke to the guy about it and he said it needs a re-map/chip to fix it.
DaNnY_LaD
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what mods have you had done to your car mate..

Ive got a 1.4i 16v sport and i want to mod the engine but i dnt know were to start

thanks
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3rd Dec 05 at 16:21   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote
Peak torque made at 6200 rpm

bit unusual for a 16v ...

If that torque line is accurate, remove the limiter and it'll make more power as it's still flat when it hits the limiter.
Butler
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quote:
Originally posted by DaNnY_LaD
what mods have you had done to your car mate..

Ive got a 1.4i 16v sport and i want to mod the engine but i dnt know were to start

thanks


Rhinos car...

Engine Mods: Reactive induction, Mongoose Exhaust, piper de-Cat pipe, DBilas Inlet, Janspeed Manifold, FSE Boost Valve.
Transmission: 5 speed. F15 box.
Suspension: Lowered 40mm all round with Bilstiens
Bodywork: Not specified
Interior: Not specified
In Car Entertainment: Not specified
Security: Loads
Wheels 17' Dares (17 x 7 ET 45)
Tyres Rain Sports (205/40)
Rhino
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3rd Dec 05 at 16:39   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Paul_J
Peak torque made at 6200 rpm

bit unusual for a 16v ...

If that torque line is accurate, remove the limiter and it'll make more power as it's still flat when it hits the limiter.


Yeah, thats what i thought.
Need to get it mapped and the limiter raised a bit to see. It hit the limiter with the power still going up!
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3rd Dec 05 at 17:43   View Garage View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote
nice of them to set the scales nicely lol!

looks good.
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whats the 1.4 had done to it?
Rhino
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quote:
Originally posted by yzjon
whats the 1.4 had done to it?



Reactive induction, Mongoose Exhaust, piper de-Cat pipe, DBilas Inlet, Janspeed Manifold, FSE Boost Valve.
MKC
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3rd Dec 05 at 18:45   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote
dbilas inlet? - whats that exactly?
Rhino
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quote:
Originally posted by Keith C SRI
dbilas inlet? - whats that exactly?


Its like a Mantzel, it replaces the standard inlet manifold which is restricitve and gives it a more direct route.

Check on Regals web site for details..

Regal..
Robin
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3rd Dec 05 at 18:56   View Garage View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote
get it chipped and remapped, theres a good 10bhp still available there, my 1.4 with lexmaul made 116bhp and the flatspot was nowhere to be seen

James R
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BHP and torque are meant to corss eachother at 5250rpm, so looks a little spurious, but a good number all the same
Sly_SRi
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3rd Dec 05 at 19:23   View Garage View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote
Interesting, thats suprisingly high torque for a tuned engine. Although very high up the powerband

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Rhino
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3rd Dec 05 at 19:25   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote
Remember the torque is in Nm not lb/ft.....

118Nm is about 90lb/ft.
Robin
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3rd Dec 05 at 19:31   View Garage View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote
ah, thats still not bad

mine made 96lb/ft
DaNnY_LaD
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So what is the 1st think i should go for to start it off
Rhino
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quote:
Originally posted by robmarriott
ah, thats still not bad

mine made 96lb/ft



Yeah... no too bad. Not sure how to increase the torque figure.

What chip / re-map did you have on your motor?
Sly_SRi
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Oh right, thought it was in lb/ft, thats seems about right.

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Rhino
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quote:
Originally posted by DaNnY_LaD
So what is the 1st think i should go for to start it off


Much money do you want to spend?

Whats been done already? filter & exhaust/de-cat is a good place to start.
Robin
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quote:
Originally posted by Rhino
quote:
Originally posted by robmarriott
ah, thats still not bad

mine made 96lb/ft



Yeah... no too bad. Not sure how to increase the torque figure.

What chip / re-map did you have on your motor?


i had brosters old ecu, which had a mappable eeprom chip fitted and mapped by jamsport

was mapped for his 138bhp 1.6 but seemed to do the job, the main thing it did was eliminated the flatspot, and let the engine rev to 7200rpm
Rhino
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quote:
Originally posted by robmarriott
quote:
Originally posted by Rhino
quote:
Originally posted by robmarriott
ah, thats still not bad

mine made 96lb/ft



Yeah... no too bad. Not sure how to increase the torque figure.

What chip / re-map did you have on your motor?


i had brosters old ecu, which had a mappable eeprom chip fitted and mapped by jamsport

was mapped for his 138bhp 1.6 but seemed to do the job, the main thing it did was eliminated the flatspot, and let the engine rev to 7200rpm


cool.... need to look into this a bit.
Unichip would be the best bet but that dont raise the limiter.
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unichip is another box which plugs into the ecu and fools it though, its not an ideal setup

mappable eeprom and mapping would only be around 250 notes anyway, and would be better, as the ecu does the work
Rhino
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That sounds interesting... think i'll check them out.

Anyone deal in them in Scotland do you know?

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