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Melville
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14th Jan 06 at 13:59   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

Just bought a new mobo, cpu and some new memory. Im using my existing HDD, graphics card and case.

Ive built computers before so its not as if I have no clue about what Im doing, howerver I have a problem

Put everything together and started it up. Went into the bios to sort the settings out and everything went fine. But when it goes past the bios screen to where it normall starts to load windows it just reboots itself

Ive tried some older memory to see if it was faulty but it did exactly the same thing. The memory works fine in another machine. I changed the IDE cables and still the same problem.

Ive tried using a different HDD and it does the same thing. None of the HDD's are blank however. Would this be an issue?

The things left to try are;

1)CPU
2)Mobo
3)power supply.

Can anyone suggest anything to try? If not Im going to have to swap the above parts with another computer to test.

Thanks Mark
Ian
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14th Jan 06 at 14:27   View Garage View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

Disconnect the hard drive and see if you can get as far as getting a boot error as there's no system disc. Also try booting to a floppy.

My first thoughts are power - is the psu sufficiently well rated?
Melville
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14th Jan 06 at 16:21   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

Ive tried a new psu now. It does exactly the same. It is a budget one for about fifteen quid but it said it was 600w and while I know budget ones wont give me that much Im sure it will be enough to power an AMD Sempron 2400+?

When I disconnect the HDD it gets to a screen which says reboot and select proper boot device.

Ive now tried a working CPU with no success

Ive even tried the new CPU in another computer and it runs fine.

I dont have a FDD to boot from

[Edited on 14-01-2006 by Melville]
Bart
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14th Jan 06 at 16:33   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

try pushing f6 (?) to boot into safe mode, see if that has an effect?
Melville
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14th Jan 06 at 16:55   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

Tied it, just does exactly the same.

This was one of my first thoughts as the HDD will contain the old mobo drivers and I thought that might be the problem.
Melville
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14th Jan 06 at 18:10   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

Ok I believe I have found the problem.

I formatted an old drive and put that on and it works. Perhaps I was right in my inital diagnosis that there was in fact a mother board driver conflict?
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14th Jan 06 at 18:23   View Garage View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

Yeah, or something related to boot up that was causing it. Windows will reboot automatically if something terribly bad happens.
John
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14th Jan 06 at 18:38   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

Thats a really stupid feature to enable by default.
If you happen to be able to get into windows turn off 'automatically restart on error'.
Would be handy if it let you see what the error was before restarting.
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14th Jan 06 at 18:39   View Garage View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

You get a core dump don't you?

If its so bad, really there's not much worth looking in to.
Melville
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14th Jan 06 at 18:41   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

Is there anyway I can remove the drivers from the HDD to avoid formatting the HDD and losing everything?

I have the files backed up but its the programs that will be a bithch!!
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14th Jan 06 at 18:42   View Garage View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

I doubt it can be isolated to one thing. Its pretty bad if it can't even boot. Normally you would get a boot up with errors.

You need not format the drive, you can install along side old stuff. Personally I would be taking the opportunity to get a new drive as well which is a bit of cautionary purchase but it means you'll get more life out of the computer before it fails again.

[Edited on 14-01-2006 by Ian]
Melville
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14th Jan 06 at 18:45   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

Ive just bought a new one after the old one went tits up

Perhaps it is time to look at some sort of raid setup?

Is it possible to set up raid so that if one drive fails the other one will be ready to go type of thing. Like I said above I have the files backed up but the programs take ages to install.
Melville
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14th Jan 06 at 18:47   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

Forgot to add that my mobo supports S-ata raid 0 and 1
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14th Jan 06 at 19:33   View Garage View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

Worth looking at. I was only meaning that if the hardware was old. Can you not get the drive in another computer, get your stuff off, then format it and do a fresh install? Doing an install with data already present is not ideal.

 
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