James
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Registered: 1st Jun 02
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Can someone tell me how I can improve this site to help it get into google:
http://www.oaks2000.co.uk
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ssj_kakarot
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i thought the sites at the top of google just pay to get there.
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James
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Registered: 1st Jun 02
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The sponsored results pay to get there, but Google is a free service so any results that arent sponsored have been found by Googles web crawlers
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Cosmo
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Registered: 29th Mar 01
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these days it takes alot more than just adding stuff to your site to get a good page ranking.
You used to beable to just use good meta tags and using those words in your page, but now you have to be linked to from high ranking sites, have the correct mix of meta tags and use of these words on your page, not too many images, etc. etc.
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James
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yeh thats what I thought, ive done pretty much all you said, ive got a big chunk of text explaining what they do on the front page and some meta tags etc....
not gunna be able to get big sites to link to it though 
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Bart
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quote:
Originally posted by ssj_kakarot
i thought the sites at the top of google just pay to get there.
No, not true.
To get to top of Google, you'll want to submit your site to Dmoz the human edited directory.
Dmoz supply google all their information. The other websites get all their information as below:
[sorry, cant find it, i have it at work]
So the most obvious thing, is it go to these search engine, and register your site.
The next thing on the list to do, is decide on your keywords to use, and concentrate on just a handful (10 or so), and these to the HTML code.
Then you need to concentrate on link popularity, get as many links as possible.
You can do this by registering your website to as many free websites as possible that would link back to you. (look into this).
I too am new to SEO, so i decided to concentrate on 1 key phrase, 'control panel manufacturers'.
For this phrase, ive got 1st place in Yahoo , so it takes time to keep updating links etc.
Updating your content as often as possible often helps.
Search for SEO on the net to learn a load more.
*EDIT*
just found the chart:
http://www.omegadm.co.uk/relationship-chart.htm
as you can see, submitting to Dmoz is very crucial, as it will boost your ratings amonst many search engines.
It can take up to 6 months though!
[Edited on 16-01-2006 by Bart]
[Edited on 16-01-2006 by Bart]
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Cosmo
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quote:
Originally posted by Bart
quote:
Originally posted by ssj_kakarot
i thought the sites at the top of google just pay to get there.
No, not true.
To get to top of Google, you'll want to submit your site to Dmoz the human edited directory.
Dmoz supply google all their information. The other websites get all their information as below:
[sorry, cant find it, i have it at work]
So the most obvious thing, is it go to these search engine, and register your site.
The next thing on the list to do, is decide on your keywords to use, and concentrate on just a handful (10 or so), and these to the HTML code.
Then you need to concentrate on link popularity, get as many links as possible.
You can do this by registering your website to as many free websites as possible that would link back to you. (look into this).
I too am new to SEO, so i decided to concentrate on 1 key phrase, 'control panel manufacturers'.
For this phrase, ive got 1st place in Yahoo , so it takes time to keep updating links etc.
Updating your content as often as possible often helps.
Search for SEO on the net to learn a load more.
*EDIT*
just found the chart:
http://www.omegadm.co.uk/relationship-chart.htm
as you can see, submitting to Dmoz is very crucial, as it will boost your ratings amonst many search engines.
It can take up to 6 months though!
[Edited on 16-01-2006 by Bart]
[Edited on 16-01-2006 by Bart]
You have got to becareful who you submit your link to though, as poorly ranked pages will reflect badly on your site, and well ranked pages the opposite. So its best to work on getting good quality links rather than loads and loads of poor links!
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John
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Registered: 30th Jun 03
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Google will also just not include you if they find out your doing anything dodgy to increase your rating.
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Bart
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Registered: 19th Aug 02
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quote:
Originally posted by Cosmo
quote:
Originally posted by Bart
quote:
Originally posted by ssj_kakarot
i thought the sites at the top of google just pay to get there.
No, not true.
To get to top of Google, you'll want to submit your site to Dmoz the human edited directory.
Dmoz supply google all their information. The other websites get all their information as below:
[sorry, cant find it, i have it at work]
So the most obvious thing, is it go to these search engine, and register your site.
The next thing on the list to do, is decide on your keywords to use, and concentrate on just a handful (10 or so), and these to the HTML code.
Then you need to concentrate on link popularity, get as many links as possible.
You can do this by registering your website to as many free websites as possible that would link back to you. (look into this).
I too am new to SEO, so i decided to concentrate on 1 key phrase, 'control panel manufacturers'.
For this phrase, ive got 1st place in Yahoo , so it takes time to keep updating links etc.
Updating your content as often as possible often helps.
Search for SEO on the net to learn a load more.
*EDIT*
just found the chart:
http://www.omegadm.co.uk/relationship-chart.htm
as you can see, submitting to Dmoz is very crucial, as it will boost your ratings amonst many search engines.
It can take up to 6 months though!
[Edited on 16-01-2006 by Bart]
[Edited on 16-01-2006 by Bart]
You have got to becareful who you submit your link to though, as poorly ranked pages will reflect badly on your site, and well ranked pages the opposite. So its best to work on getting good quality links rather than loads and loads of poor links!
Yes, you can of course, you paid directories, which are human edited/selected.
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Cosmo
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Registered: 29th Mar 01
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its is definitly easier to just pay per click though.
My gf's dad owns a fire safety supply company and he just does this and makes a fortune!!
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Jodi_the_g
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Registered: 7th Aug 01
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Loads of different methods looking at your source code you done a lot of them
though the are tricks involing 'stop' words etc, forget all the keyword rubbish hardly any search engine use them any more because of the abuse.
My company do SEO as a service, so i be happy to help you if you u2u I can send you a copy of our check list that we use to ensure all our sites are full optimised.
It should be useful.
with your premission i could also run your site though our in house SEO software and produce a report on what needs doing.
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James
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Registered: 1st Jun 02
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That would be great if you could do that Jodi - do I have to pay?  
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Jodi_the_g
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Registered: 7th Aug 01
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Of course not, I am at a cleints at the moment so as soon as i get back on the road I send it to you.
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Jodi_the_g
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Do you have an email i can send the report to?
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James
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you can send it to my james@corsasport.co.uk coz I can access that one at work.
Thanks very much
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Jodi_the_g
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email sent
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James
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Wow thats brilliant mate - very impressive, got enough to keep me busy for a while. Thanks very much for your help
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Jodi_the_g
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no worries always good to help a fellow designer out.
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