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justrials2

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28th Jan 06 at 16:31

went on one to day an had 179.5 bhp out of my 2.0xe but am going back again in a few weeks when all my parts cum in the post ive still got my power car, venier pullys, 4 into 1 manifold, lightened fly wheal an then getting it chiped then ill have the cams timed in right an the fse power boost valve set up cnt w8t

Wrighty

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28th Jan 06 at 16:33

179,what mods does it have?

vibrio

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28th Jan 06 at 16:37

quote:
Originally posted by justrials2
went on one to day an had 179.5 bhp out of my 2.0xe but am going back again in a few weeks when all my parts cum in the post ive still got my power car, venier pullys, 4 into 1 manifold, lightened fly wheal an then getting it chiped then ill have the cams timed in right an the fse power boost valve set up cnt w8t

get it RR before you fit the flywheel. the lighter mass will fuck yup your reading

richysport

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28th Jan 06 at 16:40

what bhp was it when twiggy owned it

marklawton

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28th Jan 06 at 16:40

i went on aswell
1.4 sport
torque = 89.7
bhp at wheels = 88.5
bhp at fly = 108.89

broster

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28th Jan 06 at 16:44

the fact a 1.4 sport got 108 at the fly makes me chuckle! on a standard inlet still

justrials2

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28th Jan 06 at 16:45

it was 167 when he had it its had super fast road cams ported an polished head pvd fillter a exhust full system

broster

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28th Jan 06 at 16:45

super fast road cams?

vibrio

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28th Jan 06 at 16:46

so the rollers are over reading by 10hp then

BeArDy

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28th Jan 06 at 16:47

that roller is well off

180bhp on a standard XE

a XE with twin Carbs will make 180bhp on a RR but if they took it there would prob make 220bhp

take them numbers with a pinch of salt mate

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28th Jan 06 at 16:47

where was this rr

broster

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28th Jan 06 at 16:48

if i go ill break the 200bhp barrier maybe

BeArDy

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28th Jan 06 at 16:48

standard 1.4 16v making the same power as a standard 1.6 16v says it all really

BeArDy

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28th Jan 06 at 16:50

you sure the 88.5bhp is not the power at the fly and your thinking its at the wheels....?

marklawton

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28th Jan 06 at 16:50

mines got induction kit, and a full system, you might not think i have 108 bhp but i no it has, as i drive it every day and can just beat 1.6 sports on the roads

[Edited on 28-01-2006 by marklawton]

broster

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28th Jan 06 at 16:51

quote:
Originally posted by marklawton
mines got induction kit, and a full system, you might not think i have 108 bhp but i no it has, as i drive it every day and can just beat 1.6 sports on the roads

[Edited on 28-01-2006 by marklawton]

oh ok......

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28th Jan 06 at 16:51

108 does seem high a 1.4 16v with your mods

broster

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28th Jan 06 at 16:53

quote:
Originally posted by marklawton
mines got induction kit, and a full system, you might not think i have 108 bhp but i no it has, as i drive it every day and can just beat 1.6 sports on the roads

[Edited on 28-01-2006 by marklawton]

also i think thats poo, robmarriot had 116bhp from his 1.4 sport and could only just stay with a 1.6. i also had 110bhp from my 1.4 at one point and it was hard to beat a 1.6! let alone keep up with one

marklawton

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28th Jan 06 at 16:54

quote:
Originally posted by jr
108 does seem high a 1.4 16v with your mods

yeah, it might seem abit high when you see other 1.4 sports hitting that with inlet manifolds etc, but mine had allways been fast since ive had it

justrials2

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28th Jan 06 at 16:54

thats wot the cams are called from outo sprint also have a ported an polished head an when twigy had the car he got 167

broster

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28th Jan 06 at 16:55

i think both are reading high, not slating the cars at all, just think you should take the results with a pinch of salt.... any chance we could see the graphs?

BeArDy

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28th Jan 06 at 16:57

quote:
Originally posted by marklawton
mines got induction kit, and a full system, you might not think i have 108 bhp but i no it has, as i drive it every day and can just beat 1.6 sports on the roads

[Edited on 28-01-2006 by marklawton]

so you have made 20bhp from a filter and exharst

by looks of things (what i recon)
you have got a print out for power to the fly and they you thinking its power to the wheels so you have added 20% on (as 20% is average transmision loss)

example

they said and give you a print out for 90bhp (standard 1.4 16v power)
your thinking it power at the wheels so you add 20% = 18

90+18 = 108bhp

150 + 30% (30) = 180bhp

them rollers are eather 20% over or you have worked it out yourself..

Post up your print outs

[Edited on 28-01-2006 by BeArDy]

Steve

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28th Jan 06 at 16:58

PS if its an open cone induction kit you'l probably be losing power due to heat soak

sounds to me going by both sets of the results the rollers are overreaing by 10bhp, a lot of rr places over compensate with the guestimate % for transmission loss just to give the customer a good feeling

[Edited on 28-01-2006 by Corsa_Sam]

justrials2

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28th Jan 06 at 17:02

the rr is at peco was a few cars there that where standard an where reading stanardish bhp marks dont wana sit here an argue but where is there a rr where its 100%

Steve

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28th Jan 06 at 17:06

non but there are some that use more realistic transmission losses than others

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