Corsa1600
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I am thinking about putting an new inlet manifold on my 1.6 sport. Started a post on here last ween about the mantzel but was wondering what people think of dbilas. On regal they seem to have the Dbilas Dynamic Flowtec inlet manifold at 460 quid.
Is this a straight swap for the standard inlet, will i be able to keep aircon?
Will it run straight after the swap before a unichip is installed? What sort of power increse will i be looking at with a full exhaust system, decat and manifold? Where is the power with this inlet? I hear it is high up on the ,mantzel, any lower with this? any boost in torque?
Cheers people
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Jamie Walby
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I think the dbilas for 460 replaces only the upper inlet and you keep the standard lower inlet.
You should see some gains though im not sure what they will be. I think they quote about 20bhp but that might be a bit optimistic.
Jamie
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Corsa1600
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so how much is the lower part? you have to buy this seperately? does the mantzel replace the whole thing?
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Jamie Walby
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I think the one you are on about uses standard lower inlet. If yu look some of the Dbilas cost £1k so I would assume those are the ones that replae the entire standard inlet.
Speak to Rob B he has a dbilas. He will know more than me.
Jamie
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jaygsi
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i'm need to know the same
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Rob B
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my dblias just replaces the upper inlet... was rolling roaded at 123bhp with no airbox on it ...  , i have a drilled box on it now so dunno what its running cause that was the previous owners rr graph..
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Corsa1600
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yeah i have seen the more expensive one but it come with new injection system and stuff, they call it a throttle body system. its not exactly throttle bodies but is seems more that way than a normal inlet. do you know if the mantzel replaces the whole inlet? cheers mate
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Jamie Walby
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Best thing to do is email or ring Regal. As they should know more about it than most.
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Corsa1600
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yeah i emailed them this morning but they havent got back to me yet! cheers mate
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Jamie Walby
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Last time I emailed them, they took a while to get back to me.
Hold on in there big guy.
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Dave A
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both the mantzel and dbilas are practically the same thing. they both just replace the top half of the inlet. both will give the same gains as well. you only need to change the lower half of the inlet when fitting these boxes onto a c16xe (early gsi engine) the dbilas throttle bodies are a bit poo really. not much to gain over a dbilas inlet unless you replace the management as well.
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Deeky
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Hey a have a 1.4 with the dbilas on it and it is worth it ma 1.4 16v sport sitting a 118bhp now but there is a lot of work involved in fitting one your better getting a garrage to fit it also it should run perfect without a remap dont fall into the garages bull shit. 
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Corsa1600
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thats interesting to hear, cheers corsa808, big difference in price too. Is that whole new management rather than unichip for example? cheers for the vids btw, managed to get them to work, your car sounds incredible! goes like it too! money well spent!
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Dave A
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even quicker now, look for my 'guess my bhp' thread or for more info mate.
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Dave A
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quote:
Originally posted by Deeky
Hey a have a 1.4 with the dbilas on it and it is worth it ma 1.4 16v sport sitting a 118bhp now but there is a lot of work involved in fitting one your better getting a garrage to fit it also it should run perfect without a remap dont fall into the garages bull shit.
what other mods did you do to gain that much? i agree that the engine will run fine without a re-map but it is advisable to re-map the ecu to get the most out of the inlet. its only half a job without it. makes a big difference.
bring it to me if you want one fitting properly
[Edited on 18-02-2006 by corsa808]
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Deeky
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A have a cat back magnex system and a K&N typhoon induction kit thats all so its a gain of 30 bhp. How more Do you think a remap would do.
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Dave A
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quote:
Originally posted by corsa808
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Originally posted by Deeky
A have a cat back magnex system and a K&N typhoon induction kit thats all so its a gain of 30 bhp. How more Do you think a remap would do.
try a gain more like 15 bhp at the most! most x16xe's ive done inlets on with exhaust system and filter (although i got better gains with an airbox than any induction kit) see around 123-125 bhp, so a gain of 17-19 bhp.
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Deeky
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aye but ma cars only the 1.4 16v there only abou 90bhp standard. you have to have an induction kit like cant beat the note.
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Dave A
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yes, but with your mods you have not gained 30 bhp
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quote:
Originally posted by corsa808
both the mantzel and dbilas are practically the same thing. they both just replace the top half of the inlet. both will give the same gains as well. you only need to change the lower half of the inlet when fitting these boxes onto a c16xe (early gsi engine) the dbilas throttle bodies are a bit poo really. not much to gain over a dbilas inlet unless you replace the management as well.
right i'm getting one asap, in my total vauxhall mag regal say it gives 20 bhp, full setup gives 22+bhp
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I've got one on my 1.4 16v.... just had it on the rollers and it got pretty much 110bhp.
Thats with a induction kit, Mongoose exhaust, de-cat and Janspeed 4 branch.
A remap would be the next step for me i think.
Worth the money i would say...
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