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ajscorsa
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16th Mar 06 at 22:37   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote
got a 1400 and somethings buggered up on it. changed loads and its still shit lol so whats involved in fitting a 1600 bottom end with the 1400 head??

also how much am i likely to pay for a 1600 bottom end and having it re built ??
Dean_W
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16th Mar 06 at 22:40   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote
The 1400 head is different than a 1600 head.

The inlet and exhaust ports are smaller. If you put the 1400 head on the 1600, you'll end up with an X16XEL. L being lower output.

The lower output being due to the port sizes.

I'm sure this is correct, but i'm sure someone can confirm.
AK
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16th Mar 06 at 22:46   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote
why swap just the block?

The head is more likely to be fucked.... You will be able to tell if a block is fecked!!!

Just fit a 1600 complete.... 20x less hassle! Can buy them for 150
ajscorsa
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16th Mar 06 at 22:48   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote
how much of a lower ourtput?

am i better to just get a full 1600 ?? its just ive got a spare 1400 head and few 1400 bits and bobs
ajscorsa
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16th Mar 06 at 22:49   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote
adams what needs to be changed with a full block? ECU need changin?
AK
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you'd need the 1600 ECU with transponder chip....
ajscorsa
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16th Mar 06 at 22:59   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote
take it the 1400 gearbox is fine?
AK
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16th Mar 06 at 23:00   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote
ya... and shafts, and mounts
ajscorsa
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16th Mar 06 at 23:03   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote
minted, whats involved in reconditioning an engine? if i wanted it like new say, much am i lookin at spendin?
AK
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16th Mar 06 at 23:07   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote
550-650 if you pay to get it done

New bearings (crank/big ends etc)
Piston rings
Gasket set
And anything needed on the head.... rude not to do stem seals
ajscorsa
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16th Mar 06 at 23:09   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote
hmmm with what id be payin i could xe it but thats more hassle.

cheers
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why recon an engine if its not needing done though
ajscorsa
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i dont like the idea of puttin an engine in a car that i know nuthin about, just want to be able to fit an engine and have nothing go wrong for a change plus if i done it id fancy some tb's
deanmcreynolds26
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16th Mar 06 at 23:24   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote
just get an XE in
DaNnY_LaD
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Ive just bought my self a 1.6 16v gsi engine with 62k miles with uprated cams and verneir pulleys and ecu and transponder for £200 bargain realy...i was gonna fix the 1.4 lump but cant be arsed
ajscorsa
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16th Mar 06 at 23:42   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote
if i could get one like that it would be all good.

how reliable are xe's going into corsas, i dont want a car that i'll be under the bonnet every weekend.
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depends on the condition of the engine and who does the conversion. most xe conversions are constantly going wrong, i fix on average 2-3 a week round my way (somehow every garage in the north east has my mobile number and ring me when a car comes in for a conversion )

but if it aint brok, why bother?
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Does your car drink a lot of oil?

My Astra does, I really need to get a compression test done to find out whether the problem is to do with the valve stem oil seals or the piston rings (or both), but I CBA!
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did my xe myself... apart from a weirdo gearbox problem thats now sorted its all good
Andrew
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quote:
Originally posted by Sam
Does your car drink a lot of oil?

My Astra does, I really need to get a compression test done to find out whether the problem is to do with the valve stem oil seals or the piston rings (or both), but I CBA!


I haven't checked the oil on mine for about 2 months Checked the brake fluid and it was on min so i topped it up. Now me brakes are proper poor I'll have to check the pads again Changed them a month ago before the Bolton meet

[Edited on 17-03-2006 by Andrew]

 
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