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Author Engine ? 1.6 16 valve owners in here pretty please !
J4CKO
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28th Mar 06 at 09:24   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote
as per my prevuious post the other day im still unsure of what to do

i think i could get a valver supplied and fitted for maybe just under a grand from a local lad who is spot on !! (he's got a 325bhp nova and a 410bhp cossie)

but my mate has got a 1.6 16valve standard engine thats sat doing nothing and wants rid of it ? (for a bit of cash of course)

ive currently got a 1.4 8 valve

1. how easy would it be to fit the 1.6?
2. cheap for parts and to maintain ?
3. easy to fit into mine ?
4. standard BHP ?
5. cheap to get quick ?

thanks

sorry for the hassle

Jacko



[Edited on 28-03-2006 by J4CKO]
Dave A
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28th Mar 06 at 09:26   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote
oh no, not again

Depends on the age and condition of the engines.

if the 1.6 was a newish one, get that if its in good condition. 2 litre will most probably be hammered. both should need at leats a clutch, cambelt, and a quick look inside to check condition of the crank and shells.

why not just re-build the one you choose to put in? wont cost much if you diy.

[Edited on 28-03-2006 by corsa808]
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28th Mar 06 at 09:31   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote
1.6.

But, i am biased
J4CKO
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everybody is entitled for there own opinions not sure on engine etc just wants some ideas really

the engine is not in a car at the min so i would clean it up and do bits of re conning like cambelt etc get me mates to check it over anything that will need replacing i will get done

but just want to know a bit more about them and what other people think to them how easy they are to work on and mod etc and weather they are cheap to do

im not after silly bhp as ive only ever had :
1 litre nova saloon
1 litre nova hatchback
1.4 8 valve corsa

and ive now got a 1.7 turbo diesel van

thanks
J4CKO
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28th Mar 06 at 09:44   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote
the 2 litre will be cock on if i got it because the lad who does the converstions takes pride in all of them and he loves to see them out in full working order refuses to accept that they are broke

but im just thinking 1.6 at the mine they sound awesome with a filter on and they must be failry nippy with a few choosen bits done to them

come on people help me

[Edited on 28-03-2006 by J4CKO]
J4CKO
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28th Mar 06 at 09:53   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote
RIGHT !!!

just spoke to the lad who has the 1.6 16 valver for sale he advised me it has about 65k on the engine he thinks head gaskett may have gone driveshafts are missing but the 1.4 8 valve ones will fit and he wants 80 quid for it ??

good ?

bad ?

couldnt give a fuck ?

thanks
mwg
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28th Mar 06 at 09:54   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote
Just do what you wanna do
J4CKO
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28th Mar 06 at 09:55   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote
i know but its always good to have some advice etc
Dave A
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if the 2 litre is good, fit that.

if you want to fit the 1.6 then spend cash modding it, dont bother unless you have 2k for tb's etc.

Im a big fan of the 1.6 but in standard form its a bit lame. with new inlet etc its good, loved my mantzel set-up but you need nearly as much as the tb's would cost to get it perfect! Remember tho, you will need new brakes and suspension etc... which ever one you do, especially with the 2 litre.
J4CKO
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quote:
Originally posted by corsa808
if the 2 litre is good, fit that.

if you want to fit the 1.6 then spend cash modding it, dont bother unless you have 2k for tb's etc.

Im a big fan of the 1.6 but in standard form its a bit lame. with new inlet etc its good, loved my mantzel set-up but you need nearly as much as the tb's would cost to get it perfect! Remember tho, you will need new brakes and suspension etc... which ever one you do, especially with the 2 litre.


yeah im not bothered about stupidly fast i would be happy with a 1.6 16 valve with a few daft bits done maybe a mantzel airbox and few other lil bits not 2k worth otherwise i would put a turbo in !

brakes ive got 2 litre brakes on
suspension ive got coilovers
Dave A
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consider things like petrol costs, insurance....
J4CKO
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well petrol aint going to be o much trouble i know me mates got a 2 litre and his is really good on petrol and my 1.4 8 valve i only get 250 miles to a full tank

insurance ? what group is a 1.6
will i have to get it re MOT ?
tax ?
does it cost to advise DVLA ?

sorry for all this
Dave A
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28th Mar 06 at 10:04   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote
most people i know with a 2 litre get around 65 miles to £10

my standard 1.6 engines got around 85 miles to £10
J4CKO
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quote:
Originally posted by corsa808
most people i know with a 2 litre get around 65 miles to £10

my standard 1.6 engines got around 85 miles to £10


thats not to bad then
what bout tax ?
insurance group ?
dvla ?

cheers mate
Siberia
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28th Mar 06 at 10:14   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote
how many times has this thread been done?
J4CKO
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28th Mar 06 at 10:15   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote
sorry

but could do with some help please people

thanks
mwg
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PMSL I still cant believe that people measure how many miles they get to a certain amount of money instead of saying how many miles they get to so many litres Petrol prices change
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quote:
Originally posted by J4CKO
sorry

but could do with some help please people

thanks


http://www.corsasport.co.uk/board/viewthread.php?tid=273462
J4CKO
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quote:
Originally posted by Matty G
quote:
Originally posted by J4CKO
sorry

but could do with some help please people

thanks


http://www.corsasport.co.uk/board/viewthread.php?tid=273462


yeah i know i done one the other day !

but want to purely concentrate on this thread and my above questions

thanks
Siberia
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do you want to drive around every were boucing your car off the Rev limiter? or would you prefer easyer power?

when you on the motorway at 70MPH do you like the engine to sound like
NERRRRRRRRRRR... NERRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR! or just a nice quitish drive?
J4CKO
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so the clarify as it has now got out of hand my mate wants 80 pound for a 1.6 16 valve engine with approx 65k on it and im wanting to know :

1. how easy will it be to fit a 1.6 16 valve into my 1.4 8 valve
2. are the 1.6 16 valves easy to work on
3. are they cheap on parts
4. what bhp are they standard
5. are they easy to tune and cheap to do so
6. insurance group
7. what will i have to do with regards to MOT DVLA engineers report ?

if you dont want to answer the questions then thats ok but i would appriciate any help or advice

thanks
Jacko
J4CKO
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quote:
Originally posted by Siberia
do you want to drive around every were boucing your car off the Rev limiter? or would you prefer easyer power?

when you on the motorway at 70MPH do you like the engine to sound like
NERRRRRRRRRRR... NERRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR! or just a nice quitish drive?


just something a bit nippy really i love how the 1.6s sound as well with a filter sound so loud and deep
ive been thinking i dont want stupidly quick just something with a bit of kick at the min my 1.4 8 valve gets boucned of limiter wen i want to and its got 140k on the clocks
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28th Mar 06 at 10:34   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote
1. Easy maybe one differnt engine mount.
2. extremely easy espicially with an aftermarket inlet manifold
3. Very cheap on parts
4. 106BHP standard
5. yes an inlet manifold, de-cat, exhaust system will see you at 120 bhp +
6. x16xe group 10 c16xe group 11
7. Engineers report is not essential that depends on your insurance company you need to fill out a part on your V5 document and post it off.
Siberia
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quote:
Originally posted by J4CKO
so the clarify as it has now got out of hand my mate wants 80 pound for a 1.6 16 valve engine with approx 65k on it and im wanting to know :

1. how easy will it be to fit a 1.6 16 valve into my 1.4 8 valve<-- Simple
2. are the 1.6 16 valves easy to work on<-- yes
3. are they cheap on parts<--- yes
4. what bhp are they standard<-- 106/109
5. are they easy to tune and cheap to do so<--- yes and er kinda
6. insurance group<-- dont know
7. what will i have to do with regards to MOT DVLA engineers report ?<--- re MOT it and fill out the nessary dvla forms to change it to a 1.6...

Only some insurance companys look for an engineers report...

i would only consider the 1.6 if you can forsee yourself putting trottle boddies on it(£1500-£2000)



[Edited on 28-03-2006 by Siberia]
Ry_B
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2 litre - cheaper for everthing

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