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jimmy 2.1
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26th Apr 06 at 16:05   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote
right then here we go......

what are xe'd corsa's like against a civic type r?? i don't mean around the twisties, just a traffic light gp!!

and going on the logic that 106 gti's are a tiny amount behind an xe'd corsa, therefore they should be able to keep up with a ctr??

and lets throw an xe'd nova into the mix ............
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CTR
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I remember Steve having a play with a CTR in his 106 GTi around a twisty road, said he could stay in touch with it. Maybe due to the handling of the GTi, up the quarter mile there is nothing in it between all 3 of them.

I think the CTR in capable hands i.e someone that can actually drive it properly should beat all 3 with ease, but 9 times out of 10 people buy the car as a fashion accesory and have no idea how to drive it, so yes the Corsa and Pug have a good chance of staying with it.
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quote:
Originally posted by Ojc
I remember Steve having a play with a CTR in his 106 GTi around a twisty road, said he could stay in touch with it. Maybe due to the handling of the GTi, up the quarter mile there is nothing in it between all 3 of them.

I think the CTR in capable hands i.e someone that can actually drive it properly should beat all 3 with ease, but 9 times out of 10 people buy the car as a fashion accesory and have no idea how to drive it, so yes the Corsa and Pug have a good chance of staying with it.


agreed
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i've driven my sister's type r a couple of times and i can say its a lot more vicious than my tuned xe corsa. just not had a go in a 106 gti.

and seen as 106 gti's and saxo vts's are basically the same engine. they're the same performance wise? correct?
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yup - vts and gti are exactly the same
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A mass debate?

Wouldnt an x16xe on throttle bodies be better
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26th Apr 06 at 16:38   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote
not this again

don't let this thread get out of control like others
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quote:
Originally posted by Jamie Walby
A mass debate?

Wouldnt an x16xe on throttle bodies be better


Not after 3rd i would imagine, its Torque thats ins the XE Corsa's corner over the CTR and VTs/GTi

I think
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i love to mass debate
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i dont understand alot of folks comments.... esp from folk that prob havent driven any of the above.

Granted my old green corsa was a bit on the skinny side.... but it still humped CTR's and 106 GTi's....

The CTR only started to pull away (i was 2up, hes was alone and running 220bhp) at about 115mph.

106GTi's dont even come into the equation
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26th Apr 06 at 16:52   View Garage View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote
AK going on 1/4 mile times they all seem to get on average pretty similar times
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i think ad rather have a c16xe on tb's
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a corsa should be getting high 14's 15.0 on the 1/4..... a CTR around the same maybe..... NOT a standard 106GTi
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26th Apr 06 at 16:56   View Garage View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote
well me std gti got 15.2 up to 15.7 thats many runs on different days, iv even seen a std gti get a 14.9 and a std VTS get a 15 flat although this is quite rare.

Iv yet to see a CTR get under 15 secs, this is going from what I have seen, not that it hasnt been done.

I actually went up against a ctr at avon park, i got a 15.3 he got a 15.6 maybe theres an element of driver to it, but nothing thats going make make much difference tbh, and certainly not enough to dismiss it from the equation totally

Same goes for a corsa XE



[Edited on 26-04-2006 by Steve]
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a well driven 106 GTi well get a high 14...
a well driven 20xe corsa will get a low 14...
not 100% clued up on the CTR .... just know its faster top end than an XE corsa..... not low down

[Edited on 26-04-2006 by AK]
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yes they are quicker than all three 100+ ctrs that is

[Edited on 26-04-2006 by Steve]
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i had a few races with ctrs when mine was a standard xe and upto 90 - 100 mph there was nob all in it .. after 100 or so they just slightly start to pull away as the xe is running out of breath
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I reeled in a CTR in my wife's 149bhp 16v S1 106 Rallye. (30-100mph)
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quote:
Originally posted by Lucky B
I reeled in a CTR in my wife's 149bhp 16v S1 106 Rallye. (30-100mph)


I'm not suprised, 150bhp tin can, that must be nippy and stick like shit to a sheet
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quote:
Originally posted by AK
i dont understand alot of folks comments.... esp from folk that prob havent driven any of the above.

Granted my old green corsa was a bit on the skinny side.... but it still humped CTR's and 106 GTi's....

The CTR only started to pull away (i was 2up, hes was alone and running 220bhp) at about 115mph.

106GTi's dont even come into the equation


Same here, agreed
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ok rite fair comments guys. im in the middle of building a c20xe corsa coz my m8 has a civic cuope SOHC & he thinks any vti would blitz a 2.0 corsa. at the pod about a month ago my m8 chris in his civic type r hit 14.3 1/4. my m8 barry in his 2.2 import prelude hit 15.5 & a 106gti wiv apprently an induction kit got a 14.9
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CTR easy. Anyway, you can't compare modded to standard, enough said...
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my xe could keep up with a type r needed the tbs to beat it

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