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John
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13th May 06 at 05:34   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

I have an nf7-m here that won't turn on.
Pc has worked fine for about a year and a half and on thursday it just woudln't turn on.
I've tried every other component so can't be them.

The red light is on showing the board has the 5v standby power.
When the 4 pin auxiliary connector is in but the main power connector isn't and I fire up the power supply the northbridge fan goes.

Any ideas, no visible signs of anything blowing up and I can only be annoyed trying so much with the multimeter.
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13th May 06 at 09:34   View Garage View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

if its dead, its dead usually, check the capacitors for bulging on the tops. Any that are bulging are blown and you can try and solder some replacements in if you like.

Usually its not worth fucking around wit hdead motherboards though.

take it youve tried resetting the bios? take the battery out for a minute and replace and try again.

Seen this fix a few apparently dead dell motherboards
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13th May 06 at 11:02   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

can be a real simple explanation, something metallic (dust?) shorting on the board. give it a good brush with a non-nylon brush
John
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Tried all the usual stuff, good clean and no visible damage to any components.
Need to wait on a reply email about it and see how long the warranty is.
I'd rather not have to buy a new one.
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13th May 06 at 16:03   View Garage View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

and youve deffo changed the psu yeah?
John
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13th May 06 at 16:38   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

Yip tried everything.
I'll just need to see if they get back to me, if not buy a new board.
PaulW
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13th May 06 at 16:38   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

you sure the cpu hasnt fried?? unless the PSU went pop-bang...
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I didn't see what happened or I'd have a better idea.
Wee cousins computer.
What I was told it just woudln't turn on one morning.
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13th May 06 at 16:46   View Garage View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

if the cpu had fried it would still fire up but start beeping, same if ram failed
John
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13th May 06 at 18:03   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

Everything else works.
I've tried everything, this isn't the usual my computer won't turn on because it isn't plugged in.
Was just incase anyone had had a similar experience and found a solution.
Cheers anyway boys
PaulW
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quote:
Originally posted by Steve
if the cpu had fried it would still fire up but start beeping, same if ram failed


depending on severity of failed CPU, the MB wont beep if its dead...

happened to a mates NF7-S board, dead CPU = no post/beeps...
jamesw
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13th May 06 at 20:22   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

Im assuming you have reset the cmos?
Cybermonkey
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quote:
Originally posted by PaulW
quote:
Originally posted by Steve
if the cpu had fried it would still fire up but start beeping, same if ram failed


depending on severity of failed CPU, the MB wont beep if its dead...

happened to a mates NF7-S board, dead CPU = no post/beeps...


ANY failed CPU will still allow a boot into POST, followed by beeps. Until control has been handed over from the logic chip to the CPU bridge, a computer will function.
Something as sever as this points to power or failed CMOS/BIOS chip
jamesw
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14th May 06 at 14:15   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

I previously worked @ a computer firm for 4 years, repairing and building machines, we have had several AMD CPU's that wouldnt even let a board even POST
John
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Brilliant idea cybermonkey.
I'll try the old hotswap with a bios chip.
Don't know why I didn't think of that.
I can get hold of a known working bios for that, use that to boot from then when booted put the old one in and try and flash it. If thats the problem of course.
Russ
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14th May 06 at 18:30   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

have you checked PSU, cpu/nbridge spinning but no post is a sign of fucked psu. smell it, does it smell fried
PaulW
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quote:
Originally posted by jamesw
I previously worked @ a computer firm for 4 years, repairing and building machines, we have had several AMD CPU's that wouldnt even let a board even POST


same! 3 years building/repairing in one company, 3 years ict support at a school, many various pc's built/upgraded/repaired for friends & family...
Cybermonkey
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quote:
Originally posted by jamesw
I previously worked @ a computer firm for 4 years, repairing and building machines, we have had several AMD CPU's that wouldnt even let a board even POST


interesting... Just AMD?
PaulW
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14th May 06 at 23:49   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

no, intel also, although they do seem to be much more robust in terms of posting abilities...

[Edited on 14-05-2006 by PaulW]
Cybermonkey
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15th May 06 at 00:52   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

tell me about it

AMD and Asrock DONT mix

 
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