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Ry_B
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13th May 06 at 14:03   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

What is your definition of a car that has been "thrashed" ?

I mean people go on about "I'd never buy that it's been hammered.." or whatever, but they drive their cars hard and don't class their own cars as hammered

THe only thing I can think of is not giving the oil time to warm up before redlining it?
Scotty C
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13th May 06 at 14:05   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

on the limiter all night?
Stoneyginger
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i will always make sure my car has enough time to get above 90 degress before going high in revs, and make sure it is cool when i turn it off, if fan is on i never turn it off till a min after it goes off.
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not booting it from cold

arnt rev limiters there to stop you blowing the car up,there for anything after the limiter isnt safe?
Ry_B
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quote:
Originally posted by Wrighty
not booting it from cold

arnt rev limiters there to stop you blowing the car up,there for anything after the limiter isnt safe?


Yes, but it's not meant to be hit on a cold engine.
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13th May 06 at 14:19   View Garage View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

engines are tested to in the region of 14,000 rpm if not more but restricted to what is safe
Scotty C
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quote:
Originally posted by Wrighty
not booting it from cold

arnt rev limiters there to stop you blowing the car up,there for anything after the limiter isnt safe?


u can still blow and engine up, even with a rev limiter.
Wrighty
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kill it quicker at higher revs though
alistairolsen
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so long as its warmed up, its safe enough to use the limiter in every gear always tbh, they are far from dangerous. yes, wear rate will increae, but only margionally, and since most engines will do 200+k if looked after i dont really see it as an issue.

i drive my cars very hard, but as has been said, warm them up, maintain them properly and let them cool off when youre done. id be more wary of a car thats been owned by an old dear, had half its oil changes missed, filled with the next door neighbours 20w50 multigrade cos it was handy and never taken over 2krpm, then a dealer maintained car thats been used properly
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ive jsut got a new run around its a mitsubishi carisma with 191k on the clock im givin it a hard time now it stil drives perfect fuck knows when the oil was last changed etc
Meat-Pie-SRI
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quote:
Originally posted by Monster
quote:
Originally posted by Wrighty
not booting it from cold

arnt rev limiters there to stop you blowing the car up,there for anything after the limiter isnt safe?


u can still blow and engine up, even with a rev limiter.


Really? I wasn't aware of this.....................

[Edited on 13-05-2006 by Meat-Pie-SRI]
Ry_B
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quote:
Originally posted by Monster
quote:
Originally posted by Wrighty
not booting it from cold

arnt rev limiters there to stop you blowing the car up,there for anything after the limiter isnt safe?


u can still blow and engine up, even with a rev limiter.


Yeah but with proper servicing, maintenance and letting the oil warm up first the chances of this are very slim

Anyway back to the original question

I take it thrashed means redlined from cold? That's what I seem to think from this thread
timrud_
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Do you mean oil or water to temprature?

Your water can be upto temp, but your oil might still be a bit cool!
Ry_B
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14th May 06 at 16:52   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

Oil. I always let the water get upto 90 degrees then give it another mile or so to make sure the oil is upto temp.

 
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