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how exactly do u go about "drifting" a FWD car? u know where the back is out round a corner like when RWD cars drift.

seen people on car programs somehow managing it (altho not for very long)

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handbrake
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handbrakes up mid turn, lift off overstear....
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Forgot to menton lift off oversteer
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Don't always need handbrake, some cars just like doing it
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I did it in my quiksilver shortly before crashing lol. Just turn in sharply with enough speed and the back end will step out.
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Go to maccy d's and get some trays - have fun
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i can get the back end to step out going round coners fast in the wet, but never tried to do it properly as i dont want it to go wrong, lol
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buy a car with spongy rear shocks,,, accelerate too quick into a corner, then lift off the go-pedal in mid corner and watch the back end try and overtake!!

I have managed it in everything from Astras to fiestas...

and it really cant be reffered to as drifting...
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thats just out of control sliding
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just go into your corner carrying plenty of speed, turn in sharp (not too sharp or itll just understeer like fcuk) keep th foot planted and get ready to catch it. easy. Do it all the time in the rally car!
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Exactly! You basically have to lose control of your car then re gain control over it. Better in a 4wd or better still rwd.
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Mates 106 xsi used to be amazing for this, it handled so well and had so much grip but if you pushed it a bit on a big loose bend the back would step out but it was really controlable.
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quote:
Originally posted by Nismo
thats just out of control sliding


Hardly drifting is it?
Ditch
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quote:
Originally posted by Nismo
thats just out of control sliding


exactly... you cant "drift" a FWD car progressively like you can something RWD... its either out of control or straight...!
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Drifing implies you have some control over the oversteer... Err, you don't in an FWD car. They slid sideways a bit if you corner hard, but as soon as the back end steps out you have had it.
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You can drift a fwd car using the handbrake, well i'd call it drifting anyway, and be under control.
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Thats called a handbrake turn. Drifting is controlled oversteer.
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No its not a handbrake turn.
Its using the handbrake to introduce oversteer.
A handbrake turn would be turninig to face the opposite direction using the handbrake.
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Oh dear. Best go polish our knowledge in the 'How to drift annual by Mr R McDonald' first ten readers get two free trays to go drifting with

[Edited on 25-05-2006 by nik]

[Edited on 25-05-2006 by nik]
ed
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But you have no control over how much the car oversteers so how can it be drifting? Drifting an nly be achieved in a rear wheel driven car.
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You can physically drift a car using the handbrake, slide then correct it easily in a front wheel drive car.
Yes its not using powered rear wheels to achieve the effect but it's still drifiting.

I've even got a dvd somewhere with a japanese drift expert saying yes it can be done in a fwd car.
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i knew i should of even bothered opening this thread


Oh look ive gone and posted in it too
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There is some debate over whether or not front-wheel-drive (FWD) vehicles can drift. By the technical definition, the rear wheels slipping at a greater angle than the front wheels, they are indeed able to drift. However, most consider FWD vehicles a poor choice for drifting, as the frequent use of the emergency brake slows them down and makes them harder to control. Also, since they use their front tires for both steering and power, the car loses control after a single slide, while RWD cars can drift through consecutive corners. In this way, the definition of drifting is frequently challenged to say that FWD cars cannot "drift," only oversteer. However, some drifters such as Kyle Arai or Keisuke Haketeyama use front wheel drive Honda Civics to drift, and succeed in doing so, sometimes besting their RWD opponents. Theoretically, FWD cars can drift by simply taking a turn without braking and skid into the turn (on the ice, a FWD accomplishes the same and by definition "drifts") and by using lift off techniques to readjust the car coming out of the turn.

Copied from wikipedia(yes I know its not the be all and end all but its good enough)
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