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SteveW
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18th Jul 06 at 16:05   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

398528 KB

is 389 MB ???

just working out how much music i can put on my W800

(its too hot for my brain to think straight)
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18th Jul 06 at 16:06   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

Thats 398mb not 389
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18th Jul 06 at 16:07   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

see i told ya

brain is on the fritz
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398528 / 1024 = 389.18

Its always 1024 between different types of bytes, not 1000.
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maybe you are right then
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Its because things like bytes work in powers of 2. Hence why you get 256MB of memory, 512MB of memory etc. A kilobyte is 2 to the power of 10, hence 1024 bytes to a kilobyte. A megabyte would be 2 to the power of 20 (bytes/1024/1024=megabytes or kilobytes/1024 = megabytes and so on).
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18th Jul 06 at 17:56   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

yeah its been said twice already ^^^^^
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John
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18th Jul 06 at 21:19   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

DarkBahamut is actually technically incorrect.
What he is explaining is actually mebibibytes and kibibytes.
Kilo and mega etc are all multiples of 1000.
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1 kilobyte = 0.0009765625 megabytes
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quote:
Originally posted by John
DarkBahamut is actually technically incorrect.
What he is explaining is actually mebibibytes and kibibytes.
Kilo and mega etc are all multiples of 1000.


Not based on the popular use they arent, and that is what you encounter in an OS.

[Edited on 18-07-2006 by DarkBahamut]
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Geek Day certainly lives upto it's name in this thread!
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quote:
Originally posted by Jules
Geek Day certainly lives upto it's name in this thread!




your just jealous, you really want to be like them
PaulW
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quote:
Originally posted by John
DarkBahamut is actually technically incorrect.
What he is explaining is actually mebibibytes and kibibytes.
Kilo and mega etc are all multiples of 1000.


Actually your both right, depending on the context and conversion methods your relating to...

John, you went with the Decimal conversion, whereas DarkBahamut is relating to the Binary...

Binary representation would be 2^ (as DarkBahamut mentioned)
1 B = 1 byte
1 KB = 2^10 bytes = 1,024 bytes
1 MB = 2^20 bytes = 10,485,76 bytes
1GB = 2^30 bytes = 1,073,741,824 bytes

whereas the Decimal representation would be 10^
1 B = 1 byte
1 KB = 10^3 bytes = 1,000 bytes
1 MB = 10^6 bytes = 1,000,000 bytes
1GB = 10^9 bytes = 1,000,000,000 bytes

Both terms are technically correct when referencing it, but you need to state to which power you are referencing to...

Microsoft base there over the 2^ system primarily, hence they reference 1Gb as 1024Mb, etc... where storage manufacturers and such reference to the 10^ system, hence 100Gb HDD's are referenced as 1,000,000,000,000bytes in size.

Also a good reason why in Windows, the physical size of a drive is reported less than the size stated by the manufacturer.

PC BIOS's are all represented via Binary, which is more native to the machine language, so the total memory Steve has is 389Mb as mentioned, using 2^ (even though this is on his phone, it will still use binary conversion to represent memory)

[Edited on 19-07-2006 by PaulW]

 
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