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Butler
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3rd Aug 06 at 11:55   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

Between the standard S1 Rallye head and the Saxo VTR head?
Marc
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3rd Aug 06 at 11:59   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

I thought it just had a differant cam??
SXi_Tim
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3rd Aug 06 at 11:59   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

If you can get both engine codes i might be able to find out
Butler
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3rd Aug 06 at 12:03   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

TU2J2 is the rallye. Wonder if the VTR head is the same as the s2 rallye?
Marc
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3rd Aug 06 at 12:07   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

Oh my bad, S1
SXi_Tim
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Yeah some of the VTR fitments are the same as the S2 rallye, not the same as the S1 though.
Butler
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3rd Aug 06 at 12:08   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

I swear someone once told me the vtr head was a straight swap
SXi_Tim
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3rd Aug 06 at 12:10   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

As i said if you can get me both engine codes for the engines you are swapping them on i can tell you, looks like it probably will though.
Glen
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3rd Aug 06 at 12:11   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

A Saxo VTR mk1 is 90bhp and rallye is 100bhp.
The engine code for a Saxo is tu5jp/l3 and for a Rallye it is tu2j2l/z.

A Saxo mk2 has slightly more bhp ?

I unfortchantly work for a citroen dealership if i can help let my know wot you wnt to now?
Ditch
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3rd Aug 06 at 12:12   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

isnt the S1 Rallye a 1.3 16v and the S2 a 1.6 8v?

meaning the S2 head is likely to be the same as the VTR

might be wrong tho...
Marc
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3rd Aug 06 at 12:13   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

All 8v Ditchy.
Butler
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3rd Aug 06 at 12:14   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

Saxo mk2 vtr is 100bhp, if the valves are bigger will it not fit or what difference would give any power increases?
Ditch
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3rd Aug 06 at 12:14   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

ooooo... my bad!

S1 is a 1.3 8v which makes 100bhp then?
Marc
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3rd Aug 06 at 12:15   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

Yep.
corsa5dr
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3rd Aug 06 at 15:45   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

I thought the S1 Rallye made less power than the S2? S2 is the 100bhp one.

Also thought the Later VTRs and S2 Rallyes had the same 100bhp 1.6 8v engine?

[Edited on 03-08-2006 by corsa5dr]
Robin
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3rd Aug 06 at 15:50   View Garage View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

s1 makes 100bhp, s2 makes 90bhp
205tom
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3rd Aug 06 at 16:05   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

s1 makes 101bhp s2 makes 103 bhp
Robin
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3rd Aug 06 at 16:06   View Garage View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

so the S2 makes more power than the VTR how?
205tom
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3rd Aug 06 at 16:11   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

for a buzz? i dont know but s1 engine is v high spec to start with so maybe s2 tweaked a tad?
205tom
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to the question i dont know friend of mien from work has put a vtr head on a ax gt block(1360cc) and its sill having teething problems
Butler
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Well apparently the valves on the VTR head are smaller so no point il just have my standard head skimmed, robin you spaz the s2 is 103bhp.
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Kano
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3rd Aug 06 at 18:11   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

Butler, VTR head is diff and wont give u any bhp increase even if it did fit... there shite.. lol.. Standard rallye head and inlet combo is the best for it apart from bodies obviously.

 
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