Matt H
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1.4 8v 1998 model
According to Haynes I remove the lower cover & place in a screwdriver or locking pin to stop it from moving....
But I can't take the cover off because the crank pulley is in the way 
Its just turning & turning, there isn't much room down there either so I can't really look around that much!
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Robin
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engine in the car?
got a breaker bar?
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Matt H
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Im not even sure if I need to take it off??
Look in my other thread
Dead easy job apparently. "May as well change the timing belt & water pump whilst its off"
Can't even get to the pulley because of a cover. Can't get the cover off without taking the crank pulley off
Just read up on them & they sound an utter cunt to get off
Nowhere in that thread was there mention about a cunting bolt
So am I going wrong here in thinking it needs to be removed? Or has someone just failed to mention it?
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Robin
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erm, dunno,
but to get the crank pulley off, wedge a breaker bar in the ground at the front of the car, and flick the key round so the starter spins and cracks the bolt off.
only do it quickly though, just to crak it, not to spin it off totally...
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Matt H
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But they didn't mention having to do that inthe other thread?
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Robin
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but you say you can't get the rear cambelt cover off without, and cant get to the water pump/ thermostat housing with the rear cover on...
its got to come off really.
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flash22
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the bottom pulley need sto come off to change the cam belt and as the water pump is driven by the cam belt you need to do it first
have you put the car in gear and got someone to put there foot on the brakes??
wedge the pulley with a screwdriver or the proper locking tool then undo the nut.have you tryed shocking the nut (put the bar/socket and give is a almighty pull push) or have you tried tighting it up as some times tighting it up then undoing it sometimes breaks it free
edit the other way isto take the starter motor out and wedge the flywheel
[Edited on 26-09-2006 by flash22]
[Edited on 26-09-2006 by flash22]
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Matt H
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No one else in at the moment, going to try that when my mum gets home
(I wish I'd known about needing 2 people)
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Robin
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or do it my way if the cambelt is still on the cam pulley
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Matt H
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Not got a breaker bar...
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MikeE
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with out the correct tools sometimes this sort of job is a cnut. what about a torque wrench, you got one of them matt? i use mine as a braker bar from time to time.
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ed
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You won't undo it with a breaker bar. I tried to do it with mine. It's tightened to something like 175n/m 
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MikeE
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quote:
Originally posted by ed
You won't undo it with a breaker bar. I tried to do it with mine. It's tightened to something like 175n/m
oh dear  thats an air ratchet job
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Matt H
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The socket I have is too small for my bar (I found it)
Going to have to buy a new one tommorrow & try again
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ed
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You're better off taking it to a garage to have it undone mate. I broke a breakers bar on it trying to undo mine. Got a free replacement one though 
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Robin
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a decent bar will be fine, mine was undone with one, wedged in the ground...
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Dave A
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big breaker bar on the bolt
car in gear, up on stands with someone holding the brakes on. that usually works for me.
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Adam-D
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yup i find somone on the brakes help or car in gear, tyres on the floor and hanbrake on and wheels chocked,
i normally heat it up with a blow torch every time now, comes off no bother
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Matt H
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Might attempt the heat gun on it witht he bar
If not then I'll have to book it in
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dorward
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there is a lot easyer way put a ratchet on the pully bolt and put the ratchet againest the engine mount and turn the key (do not start the car thou) i think the socket is an e18
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dorward
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orry didnt look at the dates lol
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Root
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quote:
Originally posted by Robin
erm, dunno,
but to get the crank pulley off, wedge a breaker bar in the ground at the front of the car, and flick the key round so the starter spins and cracks the bolt off.
only do it quickly though, just to crak it, not to spin it off totally...
yer, that's how my dad did it first time when we changed timing belt. What an utter shitter though
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john_c20xe
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air gun!
[Edited on 21-06-2009 by john_c20xe]
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