mattk
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early next year i will be looking at buying a corsa C deisel, is there much difference in the 1.3 and the 1.7, obviously the 1.7 will have more umphh but is there enough to compensate for extra insurance costs (i will only be 19 when im buying) also are there any chips out there to give a lil extra??
anybody any specs 1.3 v 1.7
Ta
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Jenko_Sport
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Yes the 1.7td will be worth it
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Robin
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1.3 can be chipped, goes from 70bhp to 80, and 126lb/ft to 141.
1.7 goes from 100bhp to 120bhp, and 178lb/ft to 208.
figures are taken from http://www.bluechiptuning.co.uk/catalog/Corsa-238-1.html
performance figures for a standard 1.3 are;
13.5 seconds to 60mph, 102mph max, 61mpg
figures for the 1.7 SRi are;
10.5 seconds to 60mph, 112mph max, 57mpg
1.3 is ins group 4, 1.7 is group 6.
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mattk
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looks like it will be the 1.3 on those figures 13 seconds aint that bad i suppose
[Edited on 14-10-2006 by sthelensr.l.f.c]
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Robin
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the 1.7 is the better car, obviously, but the 1.3 is a good car too
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ed
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The 1.3 is a very good engine. You could always upgrade the turbo on it to the one they are going to be using on the Corsa D to give you 90bhp, not sure if that will work though, theoretical. I would recomend you get an insurance quote for the 1.7 to see how much it will be...
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Robin
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definitely, I reckon the 1.7 will be reasonable to insure
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ed
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Yea, it ought not to be any worse than a 1.4 petrol...
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bubble
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quote:
Originally posted by ed
The 1.3 is a very good engine. You could always upgrade the turbo on it to the one they are going to be using on the Corsa D to give you 90bhp, not sure if that will work though, theoretical. I would recomend you get an insurance quote for the 1.7 to see how much it will be...
turbo is same. iinjectors and software only differences. both engiines are available now. z13dt(70), and z13dth(90)
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EarlofBarnet
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I had the 1.3 CDTi as a company car for a month or so and I really like it. Flat until 3k and then turbo kicks in and pulls right through to 5k ish. I was really impressed with it. Recon the 1.7 could be brilliant, but I would still have a 1.3.
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mwg
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I was talking to a mechanic at Vauxhall yesterday and he said they have had quite a few Corsa C 1.7 CDTi's in with problems.
But no problems with the 1.3 engine.
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Warren G
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we have loads of problems with the 1.3cdti's, EGR valves going, cutting out, timimg jumping, poor starting etc
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Ant
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did 50k in 12 months in my 1.7 cdti astra thats why bought the 1.7cdti corsa, it a great car really nippy and in the real world still gets at leat 50mpg. Cost for me to insure at 24 with 4 years NB is £305
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shane_o
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quote:
Originally posted by Matty G
I was talking to a mechanic at Vauxhall yesterday and he said they have had quite a few Corsa C 1.7 CDTi's in with problems.
But no problems with the 1.3 engine.
he was lying the 1.3 has loads of problems the 1.7 has its problems aswell but not as bad really
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bubble
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quote:
Originally posted by Matty G
I was talking to a mechanic at Vauxhall yesterday and he said they have had quite a few Corsa C 1.7 CDTi's in with problems.
But no problems with the 1.3 engine.
 i say otherway around! egr valves always going wrong-right nightmare job too! noisy flywheel when starting up, ecu's an absolute arse to programme(script errors anyone) poor starting,turbo pipe blowing off!!
the z17dth's seem pretty bulletproof!
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vaux-tech
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true, i'd say the 1.3 is more prone than the z17dth/dtl. done couple of egr valves on the 1.3, not nice job!! fitted couple of turbos, injectors go knackered, usual turbo pipes blowing off, fuel rail problems, as for the 1.7 cdti, boost pressure sensors, oil pump pulleys sometimes tend to come loose/oil pump leaks, mass air flow meters, the usual!
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Nick-S
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quote:
Originally posted by bubblevaux
quote:
Originally posted by ed
The 1.3 is a very good engine. You could always upgrade the turbo on it to the one they are going to be using on the Corsa D to give you 90bhp, not sure if that will work though, theoretical. I would recomend you get an insurance quote for the 1.7 to see how much it will be...
turbo is same. iinjectors and software only differences. both engiines are available now. z13dt(70), and z13dth(90)
power rise is from veriable geomatry turbo i ve herd
ive own a 1.3 cdti sxi n it was fine. only problem i ever had with it was a doggy altonator and a valve stem oil seal went so it smoke on cold start up
I now own a 1.7 cdti sri n its a far beter car in every respect
[Edited on 15-10-2006 by GSi_16v]
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bubble
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quote:
Originally posted by GSi_16v
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Originally posted by bubblevaux
quote:
Originally posted by ed
The 1.3 is a very good engine. You could always upgrade the turbo on it to the one they are going to be using on the Corsa D to give you 90bhp, not sure if that will work though, theoretical. I would recomend you get an insurance quote for the 1.7 to see how much it will be...
turbo is same. iinjectors and software only differences. both engiines are available now. z13dt(70), and z13dth(90)
power rise is from veriable geomatry turbo i ve herd
ive own a 1.3 cdti sxi n it was fine. only problem i ever had with it was a doggy altonator and a valve stem oil seal went so it smoke on cold start up
I now own a 1.7 cdti sri n its a far beter car in every respect
[Edited on 15-10-2006 by GSi_16v]
ill double check on EPC then sure turbos were same part number for dt and dth.
at the end of the day its got fiat involvment so theyre bouund to go wrong!
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Nick-S
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quote:
Originally posted by bubblevaux
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Originally posted by GSi_16v
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Originally posted by bubblevaux
quote:
Originally posted by ed
The 1.3 is a very good engine. You could always upgrade the turbo on it to the one they are going to be using on the Corsa D to give you 90bhp, not sure if that will work though, theoretical. I would recomend you get an insurance quote for the 1.7 to see how much it will be...
turbo is same. iinjectors and software only differences. both engiines are available now. z13dt(70), and z13dth(90)
power rise is from veriable geomatry turbo i ve herd
ive own a 1.3 cdti sxi n it was fine. only problem i ever had with it was a doggy altonator and a valve stem oil seal went so it smoke on cold start up
I now own a 1.7 cdti sri n its a far beter car in every respect
[Edited on 15-10-2006 by GSi_16v]
ill double check on EPC then sure turbos were same part number for dt and dth.
at the end of the day its got fiat involvment so theyre bouund to go wrong!
Just i herd sum were they got veriable geomaty turbos now
Fiat i al so herd that stands for fFix It Again Tomoro 
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mwg
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quote:
Originally posted by shane_o
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Originally posted by Matty G
I was talking to a mechanic at Vauxhall yesterday and he said they have had quite a few Corsa C 1.7 CDTi's in with problems.
But no problems with the 1.3 engine.
he was lying the 1.3 has loads of problems the 1.7 has its problems aswell but not as bad really
How does that mean he was lying?
He was talking about the particular dealership he works at. Not nationwide.
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Robin
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you will get stories like that about ANY car.
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bubble
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anyone who works for vauxhall-use PRD and check the most common faults!
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John
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The 70 bhp 1.3 has a variable vane turbo.
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Nick-S
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quote:
Originally posted by John
The 70 bhp 1.3 has a variable vane turbo.
it dusent its the 75 and 90bhp
[Edited on 15-10-2006 by GSi_16v]
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John
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Whatever bhp the smaller one is it uses the variable vane turbo anyway.
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