Rich H
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I want to get a SATA PCI card for my PC as my motherboard doesn't have a SATA socket.
Off this PCI card I want to run an 80gb HDD which would have my O/S (XP) on it - is this possible, or would I end up burning the card out by constantly accessing it for the operating system?
Also, wheres best place to look for a decent, cheap PCI SATA Card?
Thanks 
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Steve
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i run my OS off a TX2200 sata card, running a WD 10000 rpm hdd
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Rich H
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So there isn't much chance of accessing the drive constantly due to it running the O/S being too much for the card to handle then? 
Cheers Steve 
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Steve
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it would be a pretty crap card if it burnt out 
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Rich H
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You get what I mean 
I've tried playing music through a USB Freecom External HDD and it blew it up after about a month. I used to play music as soon as I turned my PC on and till I turned it off, so was accessed reasonably constantly.
Thats kinda the thing I'm scared of
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Dom
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once the OS/Apps have loaded, the drive isn't really accessed that much mate (especially if you have enough ram), so it should be fine - might be worth investing in a decent card though, but can cost you anything from 60-300+.
But whats the idea behind going SATA? surely just get an IDE HD which are similar price and same speeds? (unless the drive was free and even then i would sell it and get an IDE drive, save the extra expense).
Odd about the freecom drive though, use loads of lacie firewire drives in the studio and there solid as and there getting accessed all over the show with music editing. Hope you sent it back though if it was within the warranty - got it replaced/money back.
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Steve
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my sata drive is fasterthan ide a lot faster
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Rich H
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Yeh SATA is faster than IDE by miles and is literally gonna have XP on it - I will then use my 2 existing IDE drives for data and applications.
re. The freecom drive I sent it back under warranty and got it replaced and then sold it
Thanks for clearing my questions up
Steve, how much did your card set you back? Have got a SATA drive lined up off a mate for £20, so have about £100 at tops to spend on the card?
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Steve
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£100 for the card and about the same for the hdd, my card is a promise tx2200
[Edited on 16-11-2006 by Steve]
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Rich H
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Cheers
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Dom
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IDE and Sata are pretty much equal in terms of read/write (currently anyways), the only thing that will make it faster is the cache on the drives - but most newer drives are usually 8MB cache (both IDE and SATA).
You'll notice a difference if you have had an old IDE drive that is 2MB and upgraded to something newer with 8MB, will be a bit quicker.
But yea, get a decent card and you shouldn't have any problems, and have a look into raid, if you're after some decent speeds, as small sata/ide drives are stupidly cheap now.
Quick tip though, double check that you don't have an old chipset, especially nForce 2, as the PCI-Bus's tend to be completly crap when using demanding pci cards (suffer from the problem myself on a nForce2 chipset).
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Steve
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dom what are talking about my sata drive is 10k rpm, ides are 7k max
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Dom
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quote:
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dom what are talking about my sata drive is 10k rpm, ides are 7k max
thats a different ball game then steve  obviously spindle speed will make a difference, but most IDE/SATA drives are both 7.2kRPM.
Take it you have a raptor? btw, WD did make the raptors in IDE when they first came out, they phased them out a year or two ago 
If you want silly speeds (from a physical drive, not ram drives), Fibrechannel or Ultra360 SCSI is what you after as Seagates offer 15kRPM spindle speeds, 3.5ms seek times 
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ed
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Aren't SATA II disks 3 GB/S?
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Andrew
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quote:
Originally posted by Steve
i run my OS off a TX2200 sata card, running a WD 10000 rpm hdd
Nice!
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Dom
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quote:
Originally posted by ed
Aren't SATA II disks 3 GB/S?
It's capable yes, but your still getting similar speeds to that of ATA133 - give it 6months/year and we'll see drives making use of the SATA connection properly
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ed
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Or wait until SATA IO comes out which is meant to be 6gb/s. But then you'll be left with the same problem of the connection not being utilised properly for a while
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ed
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I like SATA wires. They are tidy
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John
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Anything which uses the pci bus can only go as fast as the pci bus.
Do the new ones use a pci express bus instead?
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Steve
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i use the Worcester number 45 bus tbh
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