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L30 SCT
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finally got round to posting it up. tell me what you think. can you post pics of your graphs up aswell to see what the gains are through the revs.





this is when the coolant tempratue was broken and it wasnt mapped for the superchip being fitted.


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Is this WallaceP or JapPerformance?
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wallace p
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looks 10x better than any graph I have seen for a 1600 with an inlet

no sudden peak at 5k rpm or anything
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looks like i still have more power after 7000 aswell, torque is still pritty strong.
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is there a torque graph?
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yeah its all over the place cos it wasnt mapped and coolant temp sensor was broken
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quote:
Originally posted by Dave A
looks 10x better than any graph I have seen for a 1600 with an inlet



This is due to the fact its been set up with a Unichip unlike most people who fit inlets and expet 30bhp out of hte box
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there is the torque graph

it goes back to the garage in the next couple of weeks so will have to get another guess the bhp thread up

[Edited on 26-12-2006 by L30 SCT]
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quote:
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yeah its all over the place cos it wasnt mapped and coolant temp sensor was broken


well the BHP graph is a by-product of the torque graph so if it was that bad the bhp graph would be all over the place as well.
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The scale on the torque graph is much smaller than the bhp graph however.

So small fluctuations on the torque graph look huge, but on the bhp graph they arent seen.
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small fluctuations


I think with more mapping and a healthy engine it will get a lot better, think the torque will always be a bit wobbly with an inlet such as a mantzel, its down to the different airspeeds and resonance in the inlet.
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whats the torque it got there?
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do you have the bhp at every 500rpm dave just to compare how much faster yours picks up
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think it was 126
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hang on....
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many people up here will know what the verdict is on wallace performance
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and the verdict is?
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yeah what is the verdict?

you get little neds that want to spend a tenner and want there car to come out with an impreza engine in it.

wallace do what they can with what you give them. as for the rolling road figures that people get it is within 0.5 of the rolling road down at dastek fife.
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3000 50
3500 64
4000 76
4500 91
5000 103
5500 120
6000 133
6500 151
7000 165
7500 175
7730 177

rpm vs BHP at fly
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"fuk putting my car there"

shonky work,very innaccurate RR readings,taking customers cars out ( aye,not just road tests either! they crashed a customers skyline on a fri nite at like 11:30,and the most memorable one ,was when i seen them totally thrashin the tits of a customers lotus exige)
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my figures are higher than your all the way up to 6500rpm?

whats your torque figures?
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quote:
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"fuk putting my car there"

shonky work,very innaccurate RR readings,taking customers cars out ( aye,not just road tests either! they crashed a customers skyline on a fri nite at like 11:30,and the most memorable one ,was when i seen them totally thrashin the tits of a customers lotus exige)


so why does everyone put there evo's, impreza's, kit cars, c20lets' there. because russel is probably the best at tuning in aberdeen and probably the best in scotland at vauxhall engines.

and when you spend money and be sound to them they do stuff for free and do things they dont have to do. like working on my car till 11 at night.

if anyone knows what there like you should speak to adam kindness.
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tbh their rr is setup and calibrated by Gerry Gafney (guy that owns Dastek) and he is one of the best in the business with building and designing dynos.

but even Gerry himself admits (to me as I am a dastek dealer) that the Dastek RR is setup to be very accurate at diagnosis and mapping but will always give bhp figures on the generous side.

Mappers and tuners dont look at what bhp the engine is putting out but how accurate the dynomometer is at relating what is happening at the wheels and how it is processed by the computer.

this is shown by the Dyno I have bought. rather than an inertia dyno (big heavy rollers) it uses much lighter rollers that process the info 32000 times every secont. I dont care if it under reads the bhp figures (these types of dynos generally do) I care about how good it is for mapping as it allows you to set a mapping point every 5rpm rather than an inertia dyno that allows you to map every 500rpm.

IMO flywheel figures mean F**ck all anyway as they are just a figure that is 'guessed' buy a computer rather than a real output. the wheel bhp figures are far more important.

[Edited on 26-12-2006 by Dave A]
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i think k3v mu is just going by what people say and not by experince himself. as this is basically how wallace get there reputation as a shit company.

are your torque figures higher than mine?

i will need to come down to your rolling road at some point to see if you can set it up better.

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