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Originally posted by whitter45
IMO its not the right marketing for the company

Honda have always been involved in motorsport and racing and yes rally is a from of motorsport but their sucess in F1, Indycar, GT etc has meant no need to venture into this category

Its like Subaru - Rally have established them in the car industry and yes prodrive do involve themselves in other motorpsort but Rally is their primary target

Just feel its a Marketing issue - Toyota have had a simialr issues hence F1 and the money it has invested into F1 as a in house devloped car like Renualt and Ferrari as oppose it racing tems such as Maclearn (sp)

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Originally posted by sleeper 5 door
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Originally posted by muppetsport

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Originally posted by whitter45
IMO its not the right marketing for the company

Honda have always been involved in motorsport and racing and yes rally is a from of motorsport but their sucess in F1, Indycar, GT etc has meant no need to venture into this category

Its like Subaru - Rally have established them in the car industry and yes prodrive do involve themselves in other motorpsort but Rally is their primary target

Just feel its a Marketing issue - Toyota have had a simialr issues hence F1 and the money it has invested into F1 as a in house devloped car like Renualt and Ferrari as oppose it racing tems such as Maclearn (sp)

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yeah, see what your saying actually. i guess from a marketing point of view honda wouldnt benefit anything from the rally world as such unlike as you say subaru who without it would still be selling their cars in tractor and farm related business. i guess most of what we see these days made and developed by honda for their road cars engines and both suspension, they will take more from the f1 and touring car side of things, which to be fair has more of a benefit for the type of road cars they sell, as in the integra type r and the civic type-r. makes a lot of sense of how they developed such a high revving and well handling cars, as the power delivery, although we slate them, most other car makers must be envious of.

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Originally posted by whitter45


thats exactly what I'm saying - on a slightly different note my mate has just got an M3 BMW with 343 BHP

Right the CTR was slated in previous threads as it makes 197 bhp with only 145 lb/ft for Torque (so called shite for a 2.0 engine)

right the M3 with 3.2 makes 343 BHP (high out put) but with 269 lb./ft of torque similar to the 3.2 v6 of the VAG group - for the torque figure

So is that torque figure shite as its the same as other 3.2's I think not

People talk rubbish about the Vtec units yet they set the standard as most car makers have follwed Vtec with VVt in toyota and VVt in the VAG engines etc


[Edited on 29-12-2006 by whitter45]

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Originally posted by Baskey
do any honda's have 4wd as standard ?

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Originally posted by Robin
JDM Accord Type R was FWD, like the UK one.

They did do some 4wd cars, but they were mostly crappy estate cars and stuff.

Whitter, the M3 makes 'crap' torque compared to the VAG V6 because V engines make more torque then straight engines of the same size.

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Originally posted by muppetsport

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Originally posted by whitter45
IMO its not the right marketing for the company

Honda have always been involved in motorsport and racing and yes rally is a from of motorsport but their sucess in F1, Indycar, GT etc has meant no need to venture into this category

Its like Subaru - Rally have established them in the car industry and yes prodrive do involve themselves in other motorpsort but Rally is their primary target

Just feel its a Marketing issue - Toyota have had a simialr issues hence F1 and the money it has invested into F1 as a in house devloped car like Renualt and Ferrari as oppose it racing tems such as Maclearn (sp)

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yeah, see what your saying actually. i guess from a marketing point of view honda wouldnt benefit anything from the rally world as such unlike as you say subaru who without it would still be selling their cars in tractor and farm related business. i guess most of what we see these days made and developed by honda for their road cars engines and both suspension, they will take more from the f1 and touring car side of things, which to be fair has more of a benefit for the type of road cars they sell, as in the integra type r and the civic type-r. makes a lot of sense of how they developed such a high revving and well handling cars, as the power delivery, although we slate them, most other car makers must be envious of.

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