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C4RL0
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Think the time has come to get the C20LET project underway, but I need to free up some cash. So i'm selling my Mantzel Powerbox which was fitted to my C16XE.

The car was rolling roaded with the box on and it produced 137bhp. We all know what a difference these boxes make and there's the proof.

Price is £350, no offers. Unless of course you want to offer more!?

[Edited on 07-01-2007 by C4RL0]

[Edited on 10-01-2007 by C4RL0]

[Edited on 18-01-2007 by C4RL0]
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can post if need be, and its a proper mantzel box. Not a copy
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Pictures needed
C4RL0
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I'll get some pics up tomrrow mate.
Scotty C
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4th Jan 07 at 02:31   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote
137bhp with just the powerbox? no other modifcations?

[Edited on 04-01-2007 by Monster]
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Yep, well had a backbox on but that don't make a ****e bit of difference.
Scotty C
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U'll be lucky with cams, full exhaust and a remap to get 137bhp bud.
C4RL0
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4th Jan 07 at 14:29   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote
I engine was an exchange unit from Vauxhall, came standard. I put the powerbox on, got it setup and it came off the rollers with 137bhp.

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quote:
Originally posted by Monster
U'll be lucky with cams, full exhaust and a remap to get 137bhp bud.


That's not true. I know a few people with an inlet, full system, and a re-map that get around 130-135 bhp. With cam's and a re-map you should se into 140's. However i can't see you getting 137 bhp with just an Mantzel and a backbox. Now way.
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quote:
Originally posted by C4RL0
I engine was an exchange unit from Vauxhall, came standard. I put the powerbox on, got it setup and it came off the rollers with 137bhp.



Any proof of this mate?? Dyno graph

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Yeah, got the printout and even still got the receipt.
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up to the top for the night
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This type of power is perfectly possible, seen it more than once with a mantzel or mantzel style inlet
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Moving on up
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There you go folks, some pics
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7th Jan 07 at 19:32   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote
137bhp with no other mods
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quote:
Originally posted by Kiddy_Corsa
137bhp with no other mods


Do you want to buy the item? If not don't post, as per the rules.
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Bump

u2u's replied to
miles
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Surely everyone knows these are genuinely good for +20bhp with a bag of extra torque.

Rollers are never accurate, so why argue over the sake of like 5bhp?

Good luck with the sale, I guess these are rare now and worth every penny.

[Edited on 08-01-2007 by miles]
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quote:
Originally posted by miles
Surely everyone knows these are genuinely good for +20bhp with a bag of extra torque.

Rollers are never accurate, so why argue over the sake of like 5bhp?

Good luck with the sale, I guess these are rare now and worth every penny.

[Edited on 08-01-2007 by miles]


Well said
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Do you know if it fits the 1.4 sport mate?
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yes it will fit a 1.4 16v x14xe
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the c16xe has a differant lower inlet to the x16xe x16xel and x14xe

these are the best mods for money you can get for the smallblock xe

shouldn't think youd get 137bhp although you will get a very noticeble increase in power at high revs..
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quote:
Originally posted by miles
Surely everyone knows these are genuinely good for +20bhp with a bag of extra torque.

Rollers are never accurate, so why argue over the sake of like 5bhp?

Good luck with the sale, I guess these are rare now and worth every penny.

[Edited on 08-01-2007 by miles]


POSSIABLY 20bhp with a remap and full exhaust, yes. Agrue over 5bhp? 106bhp + 20bhp = 126bhp, hes claiming 137bhp, how is that 5bhp out

Not knocking the item, as they are very good, just dont see how you got those gains
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Mantzel quote figures of 12BHP without mapping. Still makes a difference though

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