Gary
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What does the p1 scooby have extra over the normal scooby turbo?
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MarkM
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a P and a 1 before it...
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Colin
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P1 is basically a Jap STi Type R 3 door car which has been set up for UK roads.
Over a normal UK 2000 it has:
More power - 65bhp I believe
2 door shell
uprated brakes & suspension
better styling bits/wheels
Limited car with a model number
[Edited on 26-01-2007 by Colin]
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Phil W
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Rather have a V5 Type-R 
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Gary
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Anyone got a spec list of both?
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Andyrs1800
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Diff front bumper with lower splitter and diff fog's, carbon tipped spoiler thats also a diff shape, diff wheels (anthracite oz 17's) diff seats urm...
[Edited on 26-01-2007 by Andyrs1800]
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Wrighty
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its the cream of the crop...
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Colin
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Prodrive P1
Throughout 1999, there were strong rumours that the UK market was at long last going to receive a Japanese specification Impreza, with improved levels of overall performance. A two door white Impreza Turbo running on 17 inch gold alloys and Prodrive number plates had been spotted several times. September 22nd 1999, Autocar magazine run a scoop showing this very same white car, along with a glowing write-up, and an estimated price tag of £30k. Despite having a few inconsistencies (eg 2.2 litre engine with 350bhp!), the article answered many of the questions enthusiasts across the country had been asking for many weeks. The white car was actually a prototype for the forthcoming UK spec Impreza supercar. Based on the 2 door Impreza body shell (but without the wide arches of the 22B)., the car had been developed by Prodrive during the previous year in conjunction with Fuji Heavy Industries and Subaru Tecnica International in Japan. It had been designed from day 1 to be Subaru UK’s response to both ‘grey imports’ and the phenomenal Mitsubishi EVO 6, which had been receiving rave reviews all year long. "Shock Subaru Announcement - New UK Spec 280 PS Impreza Turbo" was the title of the press release, which ran to a full 9 pages. This car was to be called the Prodrive P1 (Prodrive One), would have the full 280PS (276bhp) of the Japanese spec cars and carried a full 3 year warranty with support from all Subaru UK dealers. This astonishing car had been painstakingly developed, and not only met all requirements necessary for full European Type Approval, but also set class-leading standards for both ride and handling. The main features of the car are as follows:
2 Door Saloon Body
Available exclusively in Sonic Blue, similar to the WRC cars, and the same as the 22B
280PS engine, with an estimated 260 lb/ft of torque
Top speed of 155mph, 0-60 in 4.6 seconds
Special Hella driving lamps
Specially Designed "Titanium" 10-spoke O.Z. 17 x 7 alloy wheels
High Ratio Steering Rack
Ventilated front and rear brakes
Shorter throw "Quickshift" gearchange
4 Channel ABS brakes
Rear wiper
Specially designed aerodynamically superior front and rear spoilers
Category 1 alarm/immobiliser, and RAC Trackstar tracking system
Air Conditioning
A production run of 1,000 cars was eventually produced, and there were some delays in getting the earlier cars to customers, following production problems with some of the parts fitted here in the UK.
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Andyrs1800
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Oh yea, my mate has 1, not sure if he has got the tree off the top of it yet  
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AK
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TypeR has other things like IC water spray, shorter gearing, bigger brakes, adjustable diffs...
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CorsaLaydee
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quote:
Originally posted by Wrighty
its the cream of the crop...
what about the 22b?
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Andyrs1800
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22B = King 
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Novaneil
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The P1 is immense on UK roads!!! Fantastic car! Was going to mention the fact that it comes with a Quickrack and Quick shift as standard but you beat me to it.
This is my mates a few years back when I had my 1.6Turbo Nova.... obviously the Nova was far better 
Neil
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Novaneil
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quote:
Originally posted by CorsaLaydee
quote:
Originally posted by Wrighty
its the cream of the crop...
what about the 22b?
22B is more exclusive, but the P1 is a more complete package.
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AK
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whet...
the 22b has mostly the same features just rarer and more powerfull 
DCCD, quick rack, short gearing etc
To celebrate the 40th anniversary of Subaru they had to do something a bit special. Enter the WRX 22B STi with a bored out to 2.2 litre turbo engine, wider bodywork, and a limited run of 400. Cost in Japan was around £25,000 but importers were selling the car here in the UK for anything from £35-50,000!
Specifications
Dimension: 4365x1770x1390mm
Tread Front/Rear: 1480/1500mm
Vehicle weight: 1270kgs.
Engine: 2.2 litre Boxer Master-4 DOHC Turbo
Power//Torque: 280PS/6000rpm // 37.0kg-m/3200rpm
Closed Deck Cylinder Block
Piston Molybdenum Coated
Metal Gasket
Tempered Clutch (twin)
Tempered Transmission
Gear Ratio: 1st: 3.083 / 2nd: 2.062 / 3rd: 1.545 / 4th: 1.151 / 5th: 0.825 / Rear: 3.416 Reduction Ratio: 4.444
Super Quick Power Steering Rack Gear Box(13:1)
Suspension: Bilstein Strut and Eibach coil springs
Hard type Bilstein Strut/Eibach Coil spring suspension
Wheels: BBS Alloy Wheels(17x8.5JJ)
17x8.5JJ BBS Alloy Wheels & Carbon Centre Caps
235/40R17 tyre
WR Car type Front Grille & Bumper
Aluminium Front Hood
STi Fog Lamp Covers
Front Cherry Red Front Grille Emblem(6 stars)
Rear Sticker(22B-STi)
Fender & STi Side Emblem
Coloured coded side under skirt, rear spoiler, bumper and front spoiler
High WRC Rear Spoiler with High Mount Brake Light
Steering Wheel: NARDI shock absorbent(without Air Bag)
NARDI shock absorbent leather covered Steering Wheel without Air Bag
Serial Number Plate<000/400>
Original design Suede (Artificial) Front Bucket Seat & Rear Seat
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chris_uk
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the wide P1 was nicer 
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Novaneil
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I believe there was only 12 Official UK 22B's (stands to be corrected) and they weren't built as a UK only car. The P1 was and as a result the Suspension setup is way better than the 22B on our roads.
And officially although it has a bigger engine (but same power as the P1) the 0-60 time is slower.
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Marc
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106 GTi's are better.
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Marc
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quote:
Originally posted by Novaneil
I believe there was only 12 Official UK 22B's (stands to be corrected)
15
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AK
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same power as P1 is just the agreement crap.
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Novaneil
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quote:
Originally posted by Marc
quote:
Originally posted by Novaneil
I believe there was only 12 Official UK 22B's (stands to be corrected)
15
Close but no cigar for me then
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AK
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For most of 1998 there were rumours that the awsome 22B seen in Japan and in the WRX Frenzy section would be coming to the UK as an official import rather than a grey.
With a car sitting prominantly at the front of the Subaru UK stand at the 1998 NEC Motor Show, it was rumour no more! Cost of the car at the Motor Show was listed as £39,950. 15 specially selected owners were hand picked from hundreds who applied and certain terms and conditionas had to be met, of which you had to be an owner of a Subaru at present, guarantee that you would not sell it on within a certain period, and be with one of the dealerships who met certain Subaru UK criteria.
Why 22B STi UK? Well the original 22B was from a run of 400, but the UK cars are over and above this with an extra 24 being made (the other 9 destined for other markets, one rumoured to be Australia). The standard 22B does not meet the SVA requirements and as such needs a few modifications such as rear fog light, fuel filler restriction etc. These modifications have been carried out by Prodrive, and at the same time a couple of other extras have been done to make the cars slightly unique against the many "grey" 22B already here.
Final drive gear ratio from 4.444 to 3.900
Speed limiter deletion
Height adjustable multi-reflector headlamps (as seen on the MY99)
High power driving lamps (not shown here..presumably the covers go....they do as the cars arrive with the covers in the boot)
Thatcham Cat1 Alarm/Immobiliser remote locking system with window closer
Facia to accomodate European DIN ICE
4 speakers
Special interior mats
3 year/60,000 mile warranty
3 year home and roadside assistance
6 year anti-corrosion guarantee
additional anti-corrosion treatment
Required for SVA and would be done on any imported 22B:-
MPH speedo
Unleaded fuel filler neck conversion
Fog light conversion (not mentioned in official blurb oops)
You will be able to tell the UK specification car over the original 400 by the rear boot which has three different badges and logos.....
An interior package might also be offered such as proper Recaros etc as seen in the Prodrive interior upgrade. For more details on the 22B see the WRX Frenzy section.
The car has already been reviewed by several magazines. Autocar stated that "The 22B comes to life over a good road like no other car we've driven." but they did find the car slightly raw needing to be driven at 8/10 or more to be fully appreciated.
The UK TV programme Driven on Ch.4 also supposedly tested a 22B-UK head to head with an M3 and Audi S4 but the car was in fact a grey import and the test was unfairly rigged for TV! A burnt out clutch by unsympathetic presenters during rehersal meant the car would "only" do a 5.2s 0-60mph instead of the sub 5s they had been achieving. The blue smoke seen during the run was not tire smoke :-( During the handling test the car was set up so it looked good for the cameras with "the 'rse hanging out" which did nothing for the timed slalom. Yes we know the 22B hasn't got adjustable suspension. Driven forgot to mention that this car was very special with Ledar Type C adjustable suspension. Pictures of the car, which is owned by an IWOC member can be seen on the WRX Frenzy pages and also in the members meet section of the Impreza Web Owners Club (IWOC).
One final interesting fact is that Subaru UK found themselves having to delay the introduction of the cars to 1999 as it was discovered that there have already been around 50 (the limit on any one type in any one year) 22B imported into the UK through the SVA!
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Novaneil
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quote:
Originally posted by AK
same power as P1 is just the agreement crap.
Yeah I know.... Like the RB26 engines have the same in standard trim
What was it? a gentlemens agreement in Japan between the motor companies which came up with that figure wasn't it?
Its still slower though 
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AK
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i have heard its not as responsive....
not sure why though... more CC, same turbo as typeR/P1 strange.
still.... i'd love one.
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Novaneil
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quote:
Originally posted by AK
i have heard its not as responsive....
not sure why though... more CC, same turbo as typeR/P1 strange.
still.... i'd love one.
Maybe the extra weight of those arches
Agreed, I wouldn't argue if I was offered either. They are both Awesome cars, with the 22B just being that something bit more special due to the obvious bodywork mods and so few about. But the problem is you have to pay through the teeth for it
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