Scotty C
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How would you go about doing this? As mine is still burning oil after pistion ring and valve stem seal change. The lad who did the work said my bores might be worn, how would you fix that? new block?
[Edited on 01-03-2007 by Monster]
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Ben ev
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get a rebore with oversized rings/ pistons and rings. should always have a rebore when replacing rings anyway. depending on the engine it might be cheaper just to buy another bottom end
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Scotty C
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X16XE. Might just buy a re-built bottom end in that case then.
Any sites which offter this though? 
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Dave A
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didnt the person that replaced the rings check the bores first?
where is it burning, stem seals or rings?
rebore isnt necessary with the rings as long as the bores were honed the rings should be fine. a rebore is only really necessary if there is exessive wear as usually found on very high milage engines.
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Scotty C
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He did check them, and he re-honed the bores, yes.
Thats the thing Dave, I'm not sure where it's burning it.
Smokes ALOT more when the engine is near 100oC if thats any help...
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IvIarkgraham
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it shouldnt be getting that hot!
head gasket problem?
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Scotty C
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quote:
Originally posted by IvIarkgraham
it shouldnt be getting that hot!
head gasket problem?
Shouldnt be getting that hot? fan doesnt kick in till 100oC! Headgasket has been done, twice!
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IvIarkgraham
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fan should kick in about 98 shouldnt it
mine used to
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Robin
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100 deg is fine, it's not too hot.
Is it burning under load when it's hot? or just at idle? or even when you back off?
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Dave A
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when mapping mine last week it got upto 115 degrees a few times, up to 120 is fine on an engine in good condition.
get a leakdown compression test done to find out why its smoking, could even be a dud coolant temp sensor thats causing overfuelling at high temps, that will cause lots of smoke.
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Scotty C
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Robin - not when i'm on the gas at all..
It's when I engine brake from quite high revs, and then as soon as I dump the clutch to idle, it will stop. Seems to smoke like a bitch when its near 100oC 
Dave - Where could you get these leakdown compression tests done?
[Edited on 25-02-2007 by Monster]
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Robin
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So it's on rundown then, I reckon it's a blocked breather.
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Dave A
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yes, blocked breather can cause same symptoms. take the 2 breather pipes off the cam cover and blow down them, shold feel very little resistance.
if they are blocked, remove the pipes and clean them out. DONT try and blow the blockage out as it will just cause the sludge to drop back into the crankcase.
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i have this problem and my engine (x16xe) was meant to of had a rebuild, it smokes on high revs and on and on rundown, then when i go again a big puff of smoke appears, and it is running rich
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Mark330d
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i have an x16 xe block for sale, drop me a pm if your interested.
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c4rsa-sport
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i have bought a new head,head gasket set cambelt kit tryin to fix it bit by bit hopefully it will be the stem seals that are buggered
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Scotty C
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Thanks Dave and Robin  Will get the breathers looked at ASAP.
Mark330d - i'll u2u if problem persists 
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Scotty C
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Havent had chance to check breather pipes yet.
Diped the oil today, and there was all white sludge at the bottom of the dipstick, anything to worry about?
Gonna chuck a valver in at this rate 
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mattievRS
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The head bolts torqued up properly?Maybe the head wasnt skimmed when it came off?Is it still losing coolant and/or mixing oil and water?
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Robin
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If the breathers are blocked, you'll have sludge.
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Scotty C
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looking promising then Robin 
quote:
Originally posted by m17tty
The head bolts torqued up properly?Maybe the head wasnt skimmed when it came off?Is it still losing coolant and/or mixing oil and water?
Yup all done by a fully qualified vauxhall machanic, head was skimmed. Isn't loosing any coolent, nore is it mixing with the oil.
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ed
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I got sludge because of blocked breathers on my 1.2... Cleaned them out. Problem solved
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Scotty C
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I love you all
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Scotty C
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Took the top of my breather pipe just (the fatter one of the two) and it looked like someone has bought lots of pots of mayo from maccys and tipped them down there 
Just need to find out what root it takes to the crank?
As far as I can see, it goes under the coil, and then behind the engine. Where abouts on the sump does it go?
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quote:
Originally posted by Dave A
yes, blocked breather can cause same symptoms. take the 2 breather pipes off the cam cover and blow down them, shold feel very little resistance.
if they are blocked, remove the pipes and clean them out. DONT try and blow the blockage out as it will just cause the sludge to drop back into the crankcase.
Which 2? lol
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