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jay kay

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11th Mar 07 at 18:17

Taken from auto express

INSURERS WEIGH UP PREMIUMS

Drive a heavy car and you could soon be hit with a heft premium. Thats the message from the industry, which is including vehicle weight in new group ratings for the first time.

Used to calculate the cost of motorists' cover, the standings are getting thier first overhaul for 15 years. The Association of British Insurers (ABI) says that the extra premiums are needed on because they cause more damage to the road, pedestrians and other motors when involved in accidents contributing to the rising cost of claims.

The shake-up which has also been prompted by a massive increase in the range of new vehicles and parts, is set to bump up the number of insurance groups from 20 to 50. An ABI spokesman said: " the wider number of ratings will give cover providers more scope to fine tunes quotes in order to better reflect modern vehicles and thier actual risk on te road."

But the Association of British Drivers countered " this is simply an excuse to increase premiums" Insurers claimed it was too early to predict exactly how much prices would rise, as the new groupings will not come into effect for another six months.

Examples of insurance group changes :

Mini Cooper group now ---- 8 New group ---- 21
Ford Focus TDCI group now ---7 new group --- 15

DISCUSS!!

I cannot see why they feel the need to increase the group by such a large amount and make people pay more when the risk remains the same

[Edited on 11-03-2007 by jay kay]

Marc

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11th Mar 07 at 18:22

Eh? Group 21

drunkenfool

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11th Mar 07 at 18:23

if theres 50 groups instead of 20 then the two examples above wont be more expensive will they? Unless group 20 of the new way is the same cost as group 20 of now, which would be ridiculous!

Ste L

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11th Mar 07 at 18:23

so does that mean if you strip you car out, insurance will be cheaper because it;s lighter

drunkenfool

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11th Mar 07 at 18:24

quote:
Originally posted by Ste L
so does that mean if you strip you car out, insurance will be cheaper because it;s lighter

Good point!

GT4Brody

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11th Mar 07 at 18:26

as if we dont get raped enough for insurance

mattk

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11th Mar 07 at 18:26

saxo driver - Get In

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11th Mar 07 at 18:27

quote:
Originally posted by drunkenfool

quote:
Originally posted by Ste L
so does that mean if you strip you car out, insurance will be cheaper because it;s lighter

Good point!

brillaint

dhdev

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11th Mar 07 at 18:34

Sweet group 1 insurance here I come

Robin

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11th Mar 07 at 18:37

Insurance groups mean FA anyway

Tesco use their own system, from 1-99 IIRC.

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11th Mar 07 at 18:38

Sounds about right. The system could do with a bit of an overhaul seeing as it's 15 years old...

dhdev

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11th Mar 07 at 18:39

Yeah as soon as they ask 'Any modifications?' what ins group it was in has no bearing on the quote

baza31

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11th Mar 07 at 18:40

excellent- ill be able to insure a lotus elise cheaper than my astra. Excellent. Nob heads...trying to get more money out of everyone for everything.

Robin

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11th Mar 07 at 18:43

quote:
Originally posted by Robbo
WHYYYYYYYYYY I didn't know that!

PS Auto Express is like the max power of the real cars world, full of absolute nonsencial bollocks reviews and fake gossip!!!

Fonz

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11th Mar 07 at 19:05

excuse me for being untrusting but where is the article?
Auto Express i can't find it...

Colin

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11th Mar 07 at 19:19

http://www.abi.org.uk/Newsreleases/viewNewsRelease.asp?nrid=14226

Colin

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11th Mar 07 at 19:22

Check your car's new rating here

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11th Mar 07 at 19:28

Oh no, my Punto has moved from Group 4 to 12. (Even)

[Edited on 11-03-2007 by ed]

EarlofBarnet

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11th Mar 07 at 19:54

Mine hasn't been re-classified! Not sure if its because its too old (1994)?

I think its all been done to help classify cars that are all under the current group 20 umbrella. A lad at my work has an Evo8 which is now a 20, it jumps to a 44 under the new scheme. So in theory it might be cheaper to insure...maybe.

Doug

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11th Mar 07 at 19:58

quote:
Originally posted by mattk
saxo driver - Get In

BMW driver - Shit

Ian

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11th Mar 07 at 20:09

VAUXHALL MONARO VXR V8
5967cc
2005
Petrol Manual
48

Doug

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11th Mar 07 at 20:11

I cant find my car on there?!

Ian

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11th Mar 07 at 20:13

In other news...

VAUXHALL CORSA VXR 3 1598cc 2007 3 - Petrol Manual 52078601 16 32 D T2

16 under the old system, 32 on the new.

Ian

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11th Mar 07 at 20:20

Only 11 cars stay in group 1

FIAT PANDA ACTIVE 1108cc 5 door
FIAT PANDA DYNAMIC 1242cc 5 door
FIAT PANDA DYNAMIC 1242cc 5 door
REVA G-WIZ (ELECTRIC) 0cc 3 door
REVA G-WIZ ACD 0cc 3 door
SKODA FABIA CLASSIC 997cc 5 door
TOYOTA AYGO 998cc 3 door
TOYOTA AYGO 998cc 5 door
VAUXHALL CORSA EXPRESSION 998cc 3 door
VOLKSWAGEN FOX 1198cc 3 door
VOLKSWAGEN FOX URBAN 1198cc 3 door

Steve

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Location: Worcestershire Drives: Defender
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11th Mar 07 at 20:22

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