Dave A
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not sure if anyone is interested but wondered if suspension settings are of any use to people as project Vsport is off to get the suspension and geometry all setup tomorrow on a proper computerised alignment testbed with corner weights etc...
we will be playing with settings on the camber, castor, toe, ride height, spring poundages etc until we find the best setup.
I am 90% sure they print out all of the results but if they dont I can write them down if anyone wants them?
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Robin
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The settings you find best won't be right for other people though Dave 
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Jake
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will you be able to get a rough idea of factory toe settings for the rear. It is in haynes already but i'd like to know if its any different.
[Edited on 27-03-2007 by jake]
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Dave A
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Originally posted by Robin
The settings you find best won't be right for other people though Dave
no but they will give people an ide of what to set theirs to as a guide, not everyone has access to £20k suspension setup equipment
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Jenko_Sport
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Yea id say it could be very usefull for some people
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broster
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quote:
Originally posted by Dave A
quote:
Originally posted by Robin
The settings you find best won't be right for other people though Dave
no but they will give people an ide of what to set theirs to as a guide, not everyone has access to £20k suspension setup equipment
I set mine up with equipment alot cheaper. and adjusted the rear beam......
makes a big difference tho, i recommend anyone does it to make the most of your suspension setup.
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Adam-D
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mine needs more feel, its a little remote atm, and doesnt seem as planted as it shud be,
ill see what happens when i fit my good wheels and tyres.
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Cupra Steve
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How much does it cost to have your suspension setup? As i'll hopefully be getting an adjustable set of spax shocks for the front and i haven't got a clue what i'm doing!!!
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Dave A
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well we spent 3 hours on it and still didnt finish it, far too many distractions to have a proper go. but we did get it half done, this is where we got to:
1 degree negative camber
1 degree toe out
about 2-3 degrees negative castor (machine decided it didnt like doing castor and was playing up a bit)
didnt get to adjust the rear beam at all, will get it all finished on the weekend when the workshop is a bit quieter.
the difference it has made is fantastic, turns in so much better and grip seems endless, can push it round bends so much faster then before. will be getting it finished then off for some practice laps at teeside autodrome to see how it goes, I will get some vids
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Adam-D
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can anywhere set this up?
or do you need adjutable top mounts etc etc
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Dave A
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need coilovers and adjustable top mounts. and somewhere with decent geometry setting stuff. not your local quickfit.
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Adam-D
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ok cheers just wanted to sharpen up the feel and turn in of my sport,
tracking could be out and tyres are michelin i think, ill get tracking done and fit my good wheels see what effect that has
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Paul_J
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I'd want a fair amount of toe out at the front, slight toe in at the rear, and more negative camber at front than rear...
I'd like it over steery with a slidey rear.
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Warren G
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was going to set mine up as 1.5 degree camber, but will do one degree now
and the tracking 1 degree toe - what will that help (over 0 degree standard?)
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Robin
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Remember that setting it up for handling will mean it's not going to be particularly good on tyres (if anyone cares about tyres  )
I need a car worth setting up 
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Paul_J
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quote:
Originally posted by warren.g
was going to set mine up as 1.5 degree camber, but will do one degree now
and the tracking 1 degree toe - what will that help (over 0 degree standard?)
Front wheels toed out = More turn in / over steer
Rear wheels toed in = stability / (possible understeer)
Rear wheels toed out = Over steer lol.
More negative camber = In theory better sideways grip
Though caster affects the camber as wheels are turned - so bare that in mind.
As robin says 'setting up the wheels for best handling' - could mean fucked tyres quickly as it'll be wearing mostly probably on the insides of the tyres.
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Warren G
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so more toe in, better handleing ie less understeer
when cars on the four wheel aligner will adjust camber to -1 degree and tracking to 1 degree then
and on the tyres side, just swap tyres left to right!
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Jake
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i thought corsa's were around -1.5degree negative camber from the factory. I have always thought it was too much and had thought about taking the rears down to 1.25 but werent sure about toe settings.
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davey_jack
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this would be good in the tutorials section!
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Paul_J
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quote:
Originally posted by warren.g
so more toe in, better handleing ie less understeer
when cars on the four wheel aligner will adjust camber to -1 degree and tracking to 1 degree then
and on the tyres side, just swap tyres left to right!
what the fuck...? no.
More toe in on fronts = Understeer.
Infact more toe in on rears = understeer lol.
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