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SabasSRi
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22nd Apr 07 at 16:48   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

Hi, I've just had my car serviced and the guy that did it says the Secondary induction filter was full of

dirt and crap and needs changing, does anyone know roughly how much it

is and whether it would cause the car to idle high? and once it's replaced it

will idle normally?


Thanks


[Edited on 22-04-2007 by SabasSRi]
SabasSRi
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22nd Apr 07 at 20:16   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

basically, could this thing affect idling?
jamesvalver
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secondary induction filter?? whats that then as ive never heard of it and im a mechanic at mazda
JamesMG
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and surely blocked induction would lead to lov revving and stalling.. rather than a high idle?
craig_s
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22nd Apr 07 at 23:17   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

does the secondary air pump on the eco teks have a filter in it??
andyc1234
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yep they have a filter in . not sure why that would make it idle high though
Scotty C
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23rd Apr 07 at 00:46   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

It wont make it idle high due to it's only used for the 1st couple of minutes after a cold start up. After that, it turns off.
SabasSRi
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I'm not sure what it is called, it's in a black box in the bottom right of the engine bay, it's got a filter in it
SabasSRi
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23rd Apr 07 at 06:58   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote



if you look under the blue lead near the bottom, the filter is in that round thing

just left and down from the power steering fluid bottle

[Edited on 23-04-2007 by SabasSRi]
Richie
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23rd Apr 07 at 07:14   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

Its the shitty Charcoal filter....... believe the pipe goes into the inlet manifold.

Mine idled funny when it was fucked.
joes_1.4_16v_sport
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my mate took mine off+ welded it shut with a plate... goes to the inlet if im not mistaken?

thats the 2nd air injection unit isnt it?

Dean_W
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23rd Apr 07 at 09:14   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

I spy ABS. Added extra?
joes_1.4_16v_sport
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no not that.... the pipe that goes from the inlet 2 the black unit...

next to that is the ABS
SabasSRi
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I went to vauxhall and a new filter plus the box was only £7.17. He said it would affect idling cause it's an air pump or something, so hopefully when I get the part it will be sorted.

Dean_W what do you mean added extra? Don't these come with abs?
Dean_W
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quote:
Originally posted by joes_1.4_16v_sport
no not that.... the pipe that goes from the inlet 2 the black unit...

next to that is the ABS


I know that.......I'm asking.
Dean_W
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quote:
Originally posted by SabasSRi
I went to vauxhall and a new filter plus the box was only £7.17. He said it would affect idling cause it's an air pump or something, so hopefully when I get the part it will be sorted.

Dean_W what do you mean added extra? Don't these come with abs?


Just wondering, because my mates 1.4 16 hasn't got ABS. Neither have I.
eel
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that is part of the egr vavle
Dean_W
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quote:
Originally posted by eel
that is part of the egr vavle


No it's not. Its the SAI.
eel
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where is the egr vavle then
Dean_W
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On the side of the lower inlet manifold. Next to the throttle body. The SAI and the EGR are two different systems.
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ok so wot does the sai do coz i have 2 get a new filter 4 mine
joes_1.4_16v_sport
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i ment power steering pump... not ABS what the hell am i on......

lol
AdiSRI
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It IS part of the EGR valve system , its as said a charcoal filter, its supposed to have bits in it. TBH mate that one is fairly new i had it replaced when i had the car.

If it is idling funny then its the ICV playing up again, best bet is to clean it out, either do it yourself or get brian to do it ( he did it about 3 times when i owned it) and if that doesnt sort it u will need ANOTHER new one lol.

Also the ABS was a roughtly £900 option on 16v SRi's mine was one of the few that had it, infact its one of the highest specced SRi's that was made :-)
SabasSRi
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I hope it isn't the ICV but I'll find out on thursday
Richie
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They are much cheaper nowadays for an ICV

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/VAUXHALL-IDLE-VALVE-IAC-1-4-1-6-ASTRA-NOVA-CORSA-VECTRA_W0QQitemZ150113970130QQihZ005QQcategoryZ10404QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

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