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JayT
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1st May 07 at 14:25   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

there much difference between the two when it comes to backboxes other than the fact the stainless has the lifetime guarentee and lasts longer? its just ive ordered a mild steel one, will it be as good? also will it have a stainless tip? its piper by the way!
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1st May 07 at 14:26   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

it'll rust, rattle and then fall to bits. Dont see the point decent stainless isnt exactly expensive
JayT
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1st May 07 at 14:44   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

think your exagerating a bit there to be honest and the stainless would have cost me 40 pounds more so there was a point, someone respond with a more realistic answer please!
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1st May 07 at 14:47   View Garage View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

That IS a realistic answer

It WILL rust, it WILL rattle when it has rusted and it WILL fall to bits when it's rusted.

£40 is nothing considering it won't fall apart after 2 years.
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it will rust and if it is visable it will become and tatty just like anyother exhaust and could start to break like a standard exhaust would and tbph i would of spent the extra 40
Butler
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I had my mild steel system for about 6 months, didnt rust, rattle or fall to bits. I sold it afterwards was still good as new. I dont see the problem with mild steel systems. Stainless ones are louder aswell.
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Stainless steel does rust if the surface is chipped.

But it will last longer than mild steel. BUT will it last £40 worth longer? IMO yes

But even a standard box should last you 4 years+ so you should get plenty of life out of a mild steel one.
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1st May 07 at 14:51   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

I had a mild steel piper backbox on my nova for two years. Didn't fall apart or rattle. Had a gaurantee with it too, not sure how long though. I did have to paint the box once, but nothing wrong with the tip.
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quote:
Originally posted by Superlite Ltd.
Stainless steel does rust if the surface is chipped.

But it will last longer than mild steel. BUT will it last £40 worth longer? IMO yes

But even a standard box should last you 4 years+ so you should get plenty of life out of a mild steel one.



Stainless doesnt rust if it chips its not like chrome plating.

Mild steel will look tatty, my stainless steel system is 2 years old and gleams like new when i wash it
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quote:
Originally posted by JayCarr
I had a mild steel piper backbox on my nova for two years. Didn't fall apart or rattle. Had a gaurantee with it too, not sure how long though. I did have to paint the box once, but nothing wrong with the tip.



stainless steel tip


look for the £40 now migt aswell, wont have to worry about it again then
JayT
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1st May 07 at 14:55   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

sorry can i just add it will only be on the car for about 2 to 3 years then i will probably change cars! i think it will take a few years before it falls apart tbh and i do think you are all exagerating, not all of us have 160 to spend on a backbox you know! i just want it for sound and looks tbh not quality and performance!

[Edited on 01-05-2007 by JayT]
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1st May 07 at 14:56   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

stainless looks, sounds better and lasts longer than mild end of.
JayCarr
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1st May 07 at 14:57   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

TBH the stainless one on my Corsa now is a lot better than the mild one on my Nova. As Topshot says, when i clean mine now it looks new. But the mild one needed a lick of paint.

If you dont plan on having the car for too long then i'd go for the mild one.
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quote:
Originally posted by JayT
i do think you are all exagerating tbh


You asked 'will it be as good?' the answer is no, it won't.

I don't see why you're moaning about that? I'm not lying, my mild steel system on my old Corsa rusted, my Stainless one didn't, that makes the stainless one better.
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what are aluminised back box's then?
JayT
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im not moaning robin just wanted to know the differences which i now know so cheers! if it does rust il just paint it lol, like i say il only have it for a couple of years anyway!
JayT
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1st May 07 at 15:02   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

one extra thing do piper mild steel backboxes come with the stainless tips? if not are they the chrome painted ones?

[Edited on 01-05-2007 by JayT]
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1st May 07 at 15:10   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

Think they're stainless. My tip never rusted or anything on mine.
JayT
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1st May 07 at 15:18   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

thats alright then, thats the only bit you see realy anyway! im guessin the box is actually black too which is also a good thing as my last backbox i had my peco stainless, the box was huge and stood out a mile!
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Yeah the box is black. Well they were 4 years ago when i got mine. Would have thought they'd still be the same.
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1st May 07 at 15:34   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

kk cheers mate
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1st May 07 at 15:37   View Garage View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

most proper performance exhaust systems are mild steel, but that is because they get replaced quite often anyway lol
Butler
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1st May 07 at 15:38   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

Im replacing my stainless system for a mild steel one soon
JayT
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1st May 07 at 15:41   View User's Profile U2U Member Reply With Quote

whys that butler, according to evryone thats replyed to me in this thread they disagree with going for mild steel!
Butler
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My backbox is huge, the bore of the system is far too big. Im buying an ashley performance mild steel black system. The back box is black and 2" in diameter. Looks the bollocks.

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