jr
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mccabe bloke who is sheff MD or something is a twat
ok were beeing taken to court again, for something diffrent this time, but his quote today was priceless
"the result of the wigan vs sheff united match should not have sent either team down"
Now dont get me wrong, but thats down to someone not having enough points 
and as far as im concerned Whelan is a shit cunt
[Edited on 14-05-2007 by mav]
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Cosmo
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 I can see where they are coming from as has cost them a fortune. But at the end of the day you are right...they didnt get enough points so STFU.
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jr
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From Teamtalk
The Monday morning papers are full of bitter columnists lambasting the fact Alan Curbishley has kept the Hammers up, insisting they should have been relegated weeks ago with a hefty points deduction.
But I'm delighted we'll be seeing Curbishley's men back in the Premiership next season and even more delighted we won't have to put up with the idiotic Warnock quite as much.
Ever since the Blades' relegation was confirmed on Sunday afternoon, Warnock and his chairman Kevin McCabe have bemoaned the "unfair" circumstances that have seen them drop back to the Championship.
The Premier League has been blamed for not docking West Ham points, Rafa Benitez and Sir Alex Ferguson have been blamed for fielding under-strength sides and referee Rob Styles has been blamed for a couple of questionable penalty decisions.
"You can blame everyone really can't you?" mused Warnock. Well, everyone except yourself it would appear.
Watford, Charlton and Sheffield United have been relegated because they were the worst three teams in the Premiership this season. It's about time Warnock held his hands up to that.
West Ham, regardless of the situation with Tevez, have survived on merit. They showed title-winning form over the final two months of the season, winning seven out of nine games and to relegate them now would be beyond cruel.
Tevez was instrumental in that end-of-season run and Warnock will no doubt argue the Hammers would have been relegated without his involvement at a crucial stage of the season.
But let's not forget Tevez and Javier Mascherano's arrival at Upton Park coincided with a nine-game winless run for the east-Londoners. They were accused of upsetting morale at the club and were widely blamed for their new club's freefall.
There's the possibility West Ham would never have even been in a relegation scrap if it weren't for the Argentines' arrivals, so it's extremely hypocritical of people to claim Tevez single-handedly kept them up.
Let's not forget this is a team who finished on the fringe of the European places last year. A side that were expected to challenge at the top end of the table, not need a final day result to ensure their survival.
It is a phrase that is used too often but the Hammers were too good to go down and regardless of what critics may say about the Tevez controversy, it would have been detrimental to the Premiership if Sheffield United had survived instead of them.
A manager who believes the whole world is against him and a team that will never be more than perennial strugglers in England's top division.
West Ham on the other hand are true entertainers with a fine tradition of bringing through young English talent and a true gent of a manager. A top flight club if ever there was one.
The Blades are simply clutching at straws. Would they have joined the 'Gang of Four' if they were in midtable? Or if West Ham were pushing for Europe? Probably not.
They spotted an opportunity to ensure their survival and they're predictably trying to grab it with both hands. But can Warnock honestly say he wouldn't have played Tevez if he was in squad? I'm sure his morals would have miraculously disappeared then.
Warnock is a loathsome man and his comments after Sunday's game highlighted his complete lack of class. But Curbishley has conducted himself impeccably through the whole saga, as have the Hammers in general.
Previous chairman Terence Brown's reign of the club was littered with mistakes but Eggert Magnusson has brought a more professional approach to the club and he should not be punished for his predecessor's mistakes.
Ever since the Icelandic arrived in east London, the club have kept quiet over the controversy and quietly got on with their business on and off the field.
Unlike the Yorkshiremen, the Hammers did not feel the need to go running to the media with their side of the story, nor did Curbishley feel the need to moan about every refereeing decision that went against his side.
Instead they set out on achieving the greatest escape ever and deservedly achieved it, finishing off with a last-day victory at champions Manchester United.
They have broken the rules and critics will argue they should be docked points but what are they basing this on? There is no precedent to their case so nobody can righty criticise the punishment handed to them by the FA.
Teams have been docked points for various misdemeanors in the past but this is a completely different scenario and there is nothing to say a points deduction was correct in this case.
And how many points should they be docked? McCabe and Warnock will no doubt push for three, but then they would wouldn't they
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Marc
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This is getting silly now. Its just convieniant for them that this whole Tevez thing has happened. IF West Ham were playing the way they did last season Sheffield would still have gone down. Maybe iof Sheffield had won more games it would be West Ham going down.
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Jamie Walby
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thisnk this summed it up quite nicely
'Unlike the Yorkshiremen, the Hammers did not feel the need to go running to the media with their side of the story, nor did Curbishley feel the need to moan about every refereeing decision that went against his side.
Instead they set out on achieving the greatest escape ever and deservedly achieved it, finishing off with a last-day victory at champions Manchester United.
They have broken the rules and critics will argue they should be docked points but what are they basing this on? There is no precedent to their case so nobody can righty criticise the punishment handed to them by the FA. '
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this whole episode is getting me very angry. some chairmans are just pathetic, perhaps they're friends with david sheepshanks.
FFS they got relegated, they lost too many games, let in too many goals....off their own back. Tevez didnt make sheff or wigan lose.
jesus christ, they're clutching at straws, its pathetic. i will lose confidence in the premier league if the deduct west ham points.
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Carl
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i'm sure you would be equally looking for a way back if you had just lost millions due to getting relegated.
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jr
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with some anger, but
1) i wouldnt say i hope tevez dies,
2) and im sure west ham wouldnt conduct themselves in a manor like the others have done
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Gsi_Ire
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west ham stayed up on merit. they played their way out of relegation.
their team of players out did the players in the teams that got relegated, and for this they deserve to play in the premiership.
the club deserved to be fined, the players do not deserve to be relegated.
i read today FIFA are now getting involved.... i only hope they dont dock points!
[Edited on 15-05-2007 by Gsi_Ire]
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Marc
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Theres no denying that Tevez got them a fair few points though!
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Cosmo
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quote:
Originally posted by Marc
Theres no denying that Tevez got them a fair few points though!
Yup!
Its all down to if FIFA see the deal as being legal or not, but according to what they have already said they have no problem with it so I doubt anything will happen.
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