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Thinking of fitting a 1.4 8valve to replace my 1.2 8valve, both engines have the same igniction (black box at end of cam box) should I expect any problems when fitting ?
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Vaux Lad
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Are they both SPI?
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Ram
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Yea, both single point.
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It fits 
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Vaux Lad
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Aye it'll work fine.
Just plug the 1.4 ecu in.
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ChrisBoom
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What gain is over the 1.2? 1.2 is 45bhp, 1.4 is 62bhp, iirc?
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ChrisBoom
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And its a direct replacement for the 1.2? Only change is the ECU, same loom etc?
Cheers
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Vaux Lad
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1.4 is 60hp.
Not much of a gain, but ok for what it costs, basically just the engine.
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ChrisBoom
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quote:
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1.4 is 60hp.
Not much of a gain, but ok for what it costs, basically just the engine.
It would probaby cost me less to use it rather than modding the 1.2 with the 1.8 throttle body etc.
What about torque? Much of a boost?
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Fitted it tonight and it's running fine on the the 1.2 ECU.
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Fitted it tonight and it's running fine on the the 1.2 ECU.
Nice one.
So just direct replacement, no wires need fidling with etc, just the bare block & head?
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Ram
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Replaced the lot, gear box, injectors all came complete so that's how it went in.
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ChrisBoom
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quote:
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Replaced the lot, gear box, injectors all came complete so that's how it went in.
Ahhh right, I get you. Notice much of a difference over the 1.2?
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A big difference over the 1.2. Got it from the breakers today and only just finished fitting it 1/2 an hour ago. The gear box, clutch, injectors etc are the same as the 1.2 only things I had to swap from the 1.2 were the connection that the throttle cable fits on to and one sensor that used a different plug. The whole lot only cost me £100 but before I put it in I fitted a new timing belt, stat, oil filter and plugs another £20 or so.
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ChrisBoom
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quote:
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A big difference over the 1.2. Got it from the breakers today and only just finished fitting it 1/2 an hour ago. The gear box, clutch, injectors etc are the same as the 1.2 only things I had to swap from the 1.2 were the connection that the throttle cable fits on to and one sensor that used a different plug. The whole lot only cost me £100 but before I put it in I fitted a new timing belt, stat, oil filter and plugs another £20 or so.
Ace, sounds good.
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I thought it was a good price, I needed a new engine as I had put 3 holes in the 1.2 when it went bang. If you get just the engine I dont see that you will have any trouble fitting it to your gear box etc. It will give you more bang for your buck than working in the 1.2 unit.
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ChrisBoom
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I thought it was a good price, I needed a new engine as I had put 3 holes in the 1.2 when it went bang. If you get just the engine I dont see that you will have any trouble fitting it to your gear box etc. It will give you more bang for your buck than working in the 1.2 unit.
Aye, apparently the 1.4 can make 80bhp with the SR cam etc. IIRC its the same box in the 1.2?
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Vaux Lad
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Fit a 1.4 ecu ASAP.
As it will be underfueling on a 1.2 ecu.
SPI's aint bad engines if you fancy spending a bit of cash 
[Edited on 29-06-2007 by Vaux Lad]
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The box will fit no problem, don't know if the ratios are the same but I would say they prob are. For £100 you wont get any better power increase. It has changed the car completly, a lot more power all through the range and plenty of torque. I am more than happy. Well it's time to hit the shower and return myself to my normal pasty white colour.
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ChrisBoom
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quote:
Originally posted by Vaux Lad
Fit a 1.4 ecu ASAP.
As it will be underfueling on a 1.2 ecu.
SPI's aint bad engines if you fancy spending a bit of cash
[Edited on 29-06-2007 by Vaux Lad]
Aye, 1.4 is a better base to start from rather than the 1.2 aswell.
Any idea on the torque?
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ChrisBoom
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The box will fit no problem, don't know if the ratios are the same but I would say they prob are. For £100 you wont get any better power increase. It has changed the car completly, a lot more power all through the range and plenty of torque. I am more than happy. Well it's time to hit the shower and return myself to my normal pasty white colour.
Ill have to get this done , cheers for the info mate.
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Hi Vaux Lad the problem with the 1.4 ecu was the fact that the breaker did not have a key for it so I cant get a key cut to fit my locks and still be chiped for the 1.4 ecu. If anyone can tell me how to work around this I would appreciate it.
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ChrisBoom
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Hi Vaux Lad the problem with the 1.4 ecu was the fact that the breaker did not have a key for it so I cant get a key cut to fit my locks and still be chiped for the 1.4 ecu. If anyone can tell me how to work around this I would appreciate it.
Immobilizer?
I dont have any of that, so its all good for me
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Vaux Lad
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What year is your car?
Does it have the transponder system?
I have a none immobilised C14NZ ECU, for a distributor model engine.
As standard they produce about 75 lb/ft of torque(they are built for torque, to be good economical engines for town driving)
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ChrisBoom
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quote:
Originally posted by Vaux Lad
What year is your car?
Does it have the transponder system?
I have a none immobilised C14NZ ECU, for a distributor model engine.
As standard they produce about 75 lb/ft of torque(they are built for torque, to be good economical engines for town driving)
Sounds good, whats the 1.2 torque, iirc its around 50 lb/ft?
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