AK
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I want lighter wing mirrors for the trackcar... The standard ones have s few motors in them. Electric fold, and adjust... so a fiar bit of weight.
Fee thinks the style i'm looking at look 'mong' - her words
which would prob look a little like this once fitted
they are W113 x H52 - so pretty tiny
Any other suggestions.... I liek ganador style ones, but they all still have electrics as far as i can see... so no go
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csweatherston
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halfrauds m3 style 
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Planty02
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wouldnt worry about how they look Adam. Function before form 
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JM_16v
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look ok tbh
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davey_jack
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I would question whether that was money and time well spent tbh
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Adam-D
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if there lighter do it
my s13 now has no aircon
thanks to a hacksaw and 6 14mm bolts followed by a thud of all the shit hitting the floor
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AK
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quote:
Originally posted by davey_jack
I would question whether that was money and time well spent tbh
thats the exact comment i would expect from a person with a completly different interest in car from me  (not a bad remark, just dif)
The car is heavy, no way of really getting round that obstacle apart from making it lighter!
Fair enough you can make it 'faster' but you still have to make it turn and stop. Going faster, stopping and turning are all easier and 'better' when the car is lighter.
Say the standard wing mirrors weigh in at 5kg each, and the new wee ones at 1kg (i think they'd be lighter, but for examples sake). Thats 8kg saved. 8kg might not seem great to you, but add it to the rest (or take away if you like)
Rear steering - 15-20kg
Seats - 40kg
AirCon - 15kg
windows - 10kg
Do you not notice how quick your car is when there is only one person or a little amount of fuel in it?
Plus 50quid isnt going to break the bank.
[Edited on 11-11-2007 by AK]
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Mike GSi
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i saw an MR2 the other day with these style mirrors looked  imo
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beattie17
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id say go for them, but bolt them to base plate not door
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Jake
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go for them, they look pretty good on that skyline, dunno about bolting them to the actually doors like that one, though.
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Fee
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to sound really un-PC...
they remind me of a person with hands but no arms....if you get what I mean
they just look wrong
how much less do they weigh than standard ones? we each lose that amount of weight and then they won't be needed
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nova_gteuk
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Why not a set of carbon r1 mirrors?
My brother has them on his old golf look good imo.
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AK
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what are carbon R1 mirrors when they are at home?
R1 motorbike?
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nova_gteuk
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http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/1998-2005-Yamaha-YZF-R6-R1-CARBON-FIBER-RACING-MIRRORS_W0QQitemZ320180411983QQihZ011QQcategoryZ35580QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
hardly weigh anything and still look good
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Robin
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To be honest Adam, with those tiny little ones, you may as well just not have any, you'd see the same behind you either way, they vibrate like buggery, my mate has them on his Mini and they're useless
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Ian
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They do look funny but this is not about looks is it.
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jr
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if there lighter, fit them, all the weight loss from those. small battry etc etc will add up, who cares what it looks like 
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starkie
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quote:
Originally posted by Fee
we each lose that amount of weight and then they won't be needed
where the hell are you going to loose weight from fee 
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AK
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quote:
Originally posted by nova_gteuk
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/1998-2005-Yamaha-YZF-R6-R1-CARBON-FIBER-RACING-MIRRORS_W0QQitemZ320180411983QQihZ011QQcategoryZ35580QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
hardly weigh anything and still look good
interested, but not convinced..
any pics of them on a car?
Ian / Jr - yep, thats my main aim... weight but if things look good and work well its a bonus
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davey_jack
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quote:
Originally posted by AK
quote:
Originally posted by davey_jack
I would question whether that was money and time well spent tbh
thats the exact comment i would expect from a person with a completly different interest in car from me (not a bad remark, just dif)
The car is heavy, no way of really getting round that obstacle apart from making it lighter!
Fair enough you can make it 'faster' but you still have to make it turn and stop. Going faster, stopping and turning are all easier and 'better' when the car is lighter.
Say the standard wing mirrors weigh in at 5kg each, and the new wee ones at 1kg (i think they'd be lighter, but for examples sake). Thats 8kg saved. 8kg might not seem great to you, but add it to the rest (or take away if you like)
Rear steering - 15-20kg
Seats - 40kg
AirCon - 15kg
windows - 10kg
Do you not notice how quick your car is when there is only one person or a little amount of fuel in it?
Plus 50quid isnt going to break the bank.
[Edited on 11-11-2007 by AK]
Ah no way, I definately have had that sort of interest! I stripped all the interior out of my corsa and even some of the sound deadening to make it lighter, and there was a slightly noticeable gain in performance.
But I cant see the wing mirrors saving enough weight to make it worthwhile. I seriously doubt any sort of wing mirror weighs even 1kg let alone 5kg! If you are that intent on saving weight and the car is intended for track use, why bother with wing mirrors at all?
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BluKoo
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keep standard ones, and go on a diet...
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Robin
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Corsa mirrors weigh 500g less per side if they've not got electric adjustment.
I can see there being a saving of 5kg or so in Adam's case, definitely.
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IvIarkgraham
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they do look 'mong' but if it saves weight do it
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drax
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They are perfectly functional, im sure they are on the Sumo Power 350z
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ed
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Do you use the mirrors a lot on the track? They don't look like they would be that functional, but if you don't need to worry too much about whos coming up your ass then who cares if they looks funny.
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